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I can't live without it, waiting on hearing back when I (and anyone else so inclined)will be able to uninstall Hydra.

After 3 days with no live guide I have come to the same conclusion.

 

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Live guide is much faster, if it wasn't all us live guide fans would not be complaining. How would you feel if grid was removed instead of live guide.

It's a fact the human eye and brain can scan one column much faster than several.

But I don' t care anymore because I converted back to "Tivo".

 

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Real world. In the morning I choose a couple of channels I watch and scan for the next 12 to 24 hours on each to see if their is anything to record.

This is impossible in grid guide with my time constraints.

I'll also add I did not like the my shows area in Hydra. I also did not like selecting things 3 or 4 times to accomplish the same thing with one or 2 clicks.

 

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I don't believe the story that live guide was removed because more people preferred grid guide. Live guide is Tivo. The Rovi Tivo is all about the mso and this new Hydra is for them.

This is windows 8 re-do. Take away useful features (Tiles instead of lists, looks familiar in Hydra) and take more steps to get thing done. Hydra is a resource hog.

 

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Who are these MSO's we keep hearing about? What Cable company's are using Tivo's?

 

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Who, on this forum, do you think can answer this question? I am not aware that Tivo publishes this info. They probably consider the complete list confidential.

Here's one MSO who does.

Why would this be confidential? It's like saying Apple won't tell anyone what carrier uses the Iphone. It would be obvious if a cable company offered a Tivo.

"Who, on this forum, do you think can answer this question?"

I see lots of posts about how Tivo has many more MSO subscribers. So where are they?

 

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Tivo focusing on Hydra and leaving gen 3 alone is a good thing for gen 3. I like the idea of no more updates. It works now and most updates just caused problems anyway.

I'll keep my gen 3 until they pry it from me. The rest of you can have your "X1 boxes", I mean Tivo Hydra.

 

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Ps Vue guide is the style of live guide (Roku), 2 columns. Gee, I wonder why Vue is not realizing everyone likes the grid guide better, according to some posters and Tivo pretend research.

 

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I tried Hydra again and lasted a day and a half. Downgrading again right now. I don't know how you guys can use it.

 

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The Hydra "mini guide" offers the same ability to quickly page through all the shows on a single channel the Live Guide did, from what I can remember.

Remove the word quickly. Their not even close to the same. Better than nothing

 

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Just to confirm that this matches our Comcast costs here in Virginia as well. We have no Comcast equipment and the CableCARD in our Roamio Pro is free as part of the primary outlet included in our Double-Play package with no HD Technology Fee and we get the $2.50 COE credit (and same details on ADO costs if we were to add another TiVo with CableCARD or if the TiVo were in addition to Comcast equipment as the primary outlet).

Scott

Same here in MA, I use the mini's for extra TV's. The mini was the game changer when it comes to cost. Now Tivo is much cheaper if you have several TV's. Before it was about the same, probably more due to the Tivo cost.

Also, make sure you buy your own cable modem and router. Save another $13 a month.

 

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You can keep saying it. Won't make it true.

As has been explained many (many, many, many, many) times, with the live guide on the left you can see what is currently on eight channels, while on the right you can see what is coming up over the next several hours on a specific channel (the one highlighted). With the mini guide you cannot. Period.

Not even close is right! People who say this don't use it, they are grid guide fans.

In the new live mini guide go ahead several days and try to return back to another channel at the beginning and see how long it takes you. You have to scroll back one at a time or exit. Just one example.

It's like using the mini grid guide in T3 and saying it's the same as the full grid guide.

 

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That said, my issue is the TE4 UX design. It's hard to believe that the UX first-gen TE4 design team did much (if anything) to incorporate customer/user feedback when they initially designed the Hydra interface. .

Remember when Tivo was looking for users who never used a Tivo to do testing. Maybe that's how they got their input. They knew Tivo users would hate it.