[ebonovic]

Swanni at TVPredictions has just posted a new article:
http://www.tvpredictions.com/tivoupgrade080307.htm

Major points:
1) Even with the announced software update, the HR10-250 will not be compatible with the new channels. Confirmed by DirecTV.
2) Existing Channels WILL BE eventually converted to MPEG-4
3) $99 offer for HR20, and you can keep the HR10-250 (and have it moved to a new spot in the house)

My comments about #3:
-) It will probably also include the dish upgrade
-) If you ask nicely, I bet you could possible do a little better on the first HR20.

 

[BOBCAT]

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"New high-def will be available only on MPEG 4-compatible boxes (H20, HR20, HR21) and the Ka/ku band dishes," DIRECTV spokesman Robert Mercer told TVPredictions.com today."
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HR21??
Another new box comming out?

 

[ebonovic]

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"New high-def will be available only on MPEG 4-compatible boxes (H20, HR20, HR21) and the Ka/ku band dishes," DIRECTV spokesman Robert Mercer told TVPredictions.com today."
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HR21??
Another new box comming out?

H21 has already been announced... but the HR21 hasn't...

 

[litzdog911]

He probably meant "H21". No "HR21" has been announced.

 

[trausch]

H21 has already been announced... but the HR21 hasn't...

What are you implying. Is your comment to be read as

H21 has already been announced... but the HR21 hasn't...

or as

H21 has already been announced... but the HR21 hasn't...yet

 

[ebonovic]

 

[RonH54]

Swanni at TVPredictions has just posted a new article:
http://www.tvpredictions.com/tivoupgrade080307.htm

Major points:
1) Even with the announced software update, the HR10-250 will not be compatible with the new channels. Confirmed by DirecTV.
2) Existing Channels WILL BE eventually converted to MPEG-4
3) $99 offer for HR20, and you can keep the HR10-250 (and have it moved to a new spot in the house)

My comments about #3:
-) It will probably also include the dish upgrade
-) If you ask nicely, I bet you could possible do a little better on the first HR20.

I called today and got the upgrade with HR20 for free. I'll be moving my HR10-250 to another room and use it as Std. Receiver/recorder since I only have 1 HD TV at the moment.

 

[Marino13]

Swanni at TVPredictions has just posted a new article:
http://www.tvpredictions.com/tivoupgrade080307.htm

Major points:
1) Even with the announced software update, the HR10-250 will not be compatible with the new channels. Confirmed by DirecTV.
2) Existing Channels WILL BE eventually converted to MPEG-4
3) $99 offer for HR20, and you can keep the HR10-250 (and have it moved to a new spot in the house)

My comments about #3:
-) It will probably also include the dish upgrade
-) If you ask nicely, I bet you could possible do a little better on the first HR20.

Do you think the $99 offer is for anyone? I just got a free HR20 last week and that makes two that they have given me in the last 8 months. I have three HR10-250's that I would like to keep and would love to take advantage of the $99 offer but I am wondering if I could since I just got a free one. What should I say when I call?

 

[BGLeduc]

This deal does reset the two year commitment clock, correct?

We are a Tivo family, and I am loath to think of life w/o Tivo. But were it not for a new two year contract, I would like to take advantage of the offer, so I could experience the new HD DVR for myself.

But, I would want to keep my Tivo/cable options open w/o incurring a financial penalty.

Brian

 

[ebonovic]

Do you think the $99 offer is for anyone? I just got a free HR20 last week and that makes two that they have given me in the last 8 months. I have three HR10-250's that I would like to keep and would love to take advantage of the $99 offer but I am wondering if I could since I just got a free one. What should I say when I call?

That is going to be tough to get a third... best thing you can do is call and see what they say

 

[ebonovic]

This deal does reset the two year commitment clock, correct?

Yes it would

 

[trex527]

99 bucks huh?I just upgraded my dish to HD recently,bought a hr10 250 off ebay around the same time and got a hr 20 in my frontroom so I wonder if I would just trade in my hr10 or what?

 

[generalpatton71]

I got three free, They meant to give me two but the installer said the work order said 3. That was about a month ago. So far I do wish I had a S3 that worked with D* but life with the HR20 is pretty good to. My biggest complaint is the 50 Season Pass limit. My HR10-250 had well over a hundred season passes. That said it hasn't missed a recording, it's fast, and the esats port worked great for a bigger HD.

 

[Todd]

I got my HR20 this week for $20. Actually, due to the upgrade installers not showing multiple times Tuesday, D* will end up paying me $100 for it plus 3 free mos of HBO and Starz. The HR20 is alright, but the TiVo interface still can't be beat. What really annoys me so far though (aside from the lack of dual live buffers...) is how poorly the skip to tick mark and skip to beg/end is implemented. Most of the time, it just flat out doesn't work right. And having to hold down the keys is a major PITA! I hope their programmers are working on that one!

 

[coachO]

Sounds like a good offer execept for the 2 year commitment but there must be some reason it sounds too good to be true.

The TIVO HD is down to $269 and no commitment. I just think keeping my options open until they actually produce more HD and a new receiver (HR?) might be a smart idea. Anyway, I sill like my HR10-250 that has never missed a recording.

 

[Jebberwocky!]

I just ordered three for free ($20 shipping) w/ new dish.

Time will tell how I like them

 

[RS4]

coachO Sounds like a good offer execept for the 2 year commitment but there must be some reason it sounds too good to be true.

The TIVO HD is down to $269 and no commitment. I just think keeping my options open until they actually produce more HD and a new receiver (HR?) might be a smart idea. Anyway, I sill like my HR10-250 that has never missed a recording.

DirecTV is trying to buy up the HR10-250 market by giving the new boxes away. They want to lock you in for another 2 years and hope that you forget about the Tivo. Who knows, maybe by then the majority of the HR20 users will like the box, because surveys show they don't now.

Think about it - it makes sense for DirecTV to get us converted now before the new HD channels come out. They want to free up the mepg2 HD channels and they want to take advantage of the hoopla of the new mpeg4 HD. If we're not on board by the end of the year, they know a lot of us won't budge - waiting to see if DirecTV and Tivo make up and offer us an mepg4 Tivo or Dtivo box.

 

[ebonovic]

DirecTV is trying to buy up the HR10-250 market by giving the new boxes away. They want to lock you in for another 2 years and hope that you forget about the Tivo. Who knows, maybe by then the majority of the HR20 users will like the box, because surveys show they don't now.

Think about it - it makes sense for DirecTV to get us converted now before the new HD channels come out. They want to free up the mepg2 HD channels and they want to take advantage of the hoopla of the new mpeg4 HD. If we're not on board by the end of the year, they know a lot of us won't budge - waiting to see if DirecTV and Tivo make up and offer us an mepg4 Tivo or Dtivo box.

How about they are offering those people that have spent anywhere from $0 - $1299 and ability to upgrade to an HR20 to get all the HD channels they won't get.

It is not a conspiracy theory.... "You" (as in the community) said you want a low cost or free upgrade to the HR10-250... but now that it has come... you still want to throw darts. If you are that upset about the 2 year commitment....
Call and see if you can get it wavied... but then if you can't... well then you know exactly where you stand...

It doesn't matter if the free up the MPEG2 space now... the MPEG-4 content is on two completely different SATs.... If they think everyone is going to convert in less then 3 months? come on.... that is even a stretch for you.

If you honestly truely feel... there is going to be another DirecTv / TiVo box... don't do the upgrade... and wait... and wait...

But when the time comes that you come to the realization that there isn't going to be a box... and have to get the HR20 (or what ever is available, depending on how long you wait)... don't have any remorse about not enjoying the HD content for all that time you are waiting.

You are not obligated to upgrade, or swap out.
Only swap out if you want to... it is that simple.

 

[mbarloewen]

I just tried to upgrade my HD Tivo and the CSR would not budge from the $199 price, plus shipping and handling. When I asked for Retention, I got disconnected.

Anyone have a direct number for Retention?

Mike

 

[utvnut]

I forgot, is a new HR20 that replaces an OWNED HR10 owned?

Thanks