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Fox to limit Next Day Streaming on Hulu to service subsribers

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I'm sure this trend will continue...gonna suck for a lot of folks unless you have a lot of patience to wait over a week to watch a show you like but missed.
The really stupid thing is that it only covers Dish subs right now. You think they could at least launch with a few other companies included instead of just one.

Also this new policy apparently doesn't apply to people that subscribe to Hulu Plus so that program may actually have some value now.
I think this is a ploy to get you to go to the network's website instead of Hulu to watch.
Instead of doing this I hope someday the networks will offer a subscription model, either via a service like Hulu or on their own, to those of us who are OTA only. They could structure it so it would be free with the original commercial load intact, or with some sort of (reasonable) fee if you wanted less or no commercials. I feel like this would be better than all the hoops we have to jump through now, and would be similar to the a la carte cable that people have been hoping for.

Given the cable and satellites stranglehold on the industry right now, I doubt that will ever happen though. I'm even concerned that free OTA television will eventually disappear as well, in the FCC's relentless quest for bandwidth to sell. It seems like they buy into the idea that everyone can just fork over money to the cables and the sats to get their TV. And all the while those guys keep making their plans more and more expensive. (If you're concerned about this too, go to www.thefutureoftv.org.)
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Ok, I totally get why a cable channel would do this --but why should a broadcast network care?
Because if you watch the show at fox.com they get to keep all the commercial dollars vs. having to share it with Hulu? I honestly don't know because I have no idea how the revenue is split between the networks and Hulu.
Because if you watch the show at fox.com they get to keep all the commercial dollars vs. having to share it with Hulu? I honestly don't know because I have no idea how the revenue is split between the networks and Hulu.
Well after reading the whole article I guess I can answer my own question :eek: They are now getting paid by the cable companies in much the same way that cable-only channels do, so they have the same incentive to discourage "cord cutters".
...OTOH, it still makes less sense for the networks than for a pure cable channel. Since OTA viewers can still watch network shows on TV, they may still want to use Hulu for its original purpose, namely to catch up on occasional missed episodes. If Fox locks that out for 8 days, then those viewers have to choose between a number of unpleasant options:

1) watch the next episode out of order, then catch up on the missed show later
2) stop watching broadcast and always watch online
3) resort to illegal means to see the missed episode sooner

Each of those options hurts the network in some way. The first weakens show loyalty, and the other two directly lower ad revenue.

The choice for cable channels is much clearer, since the corder-cutters are never going to watch their shows on TV anyway.
I think this is a ploy to get you to go to the network's website instead of Hulu to watch.
Did I miss something in the Times article? The way I read it, both Fox.com and Hulu (but not, you will note, Hulu Plus) would be subject to the "eight-day waiting period."

Of course, any sort of wait will hurt the fans of reality shows, who will have to try that much harder to stay away from sites that might spoil the results of "last week's episode."
I think this is a ploy to get you to go to the network's website instead of Hulu to watch.
Actually it is a ploy by the networks to get higher rights fees from the cable and satellite companies. The cable and satellite companies will pay higher rights fees for these benefits because they are seriously worried about people disconnecting from cable and satellite completely and getting all their programming online.

It is essentially a conspiracy to keep people paying as much as possible for the programming, and it will likely work, at least for a while. I suspect the other networks will be on board, soon, as well.
I guess this doesn't surprise me. FOX already doesn't give shows a chance and kills them after one or two episodes. So naturally, their solution is to make it more difficult for people to watch their programs.........it baffles me.
...OTOH, it still makes less sense for the networks than for a pure cable channel. Since OTA viewers can still watch network shows on TV, they may still want to use Hulu for its original purpose, namely to catch up on occasional missed episodes. If Fox locks that out for 8 days, then those viewers have to choose between a number of unpleasant options:

1) watch the next episode out of order, then catch up on the missed show later
2) stop watching broadcast and always watch online
3) resort to illegal means to see the missed episode sooner

Each of those options hurts the network in some way. The first weakens show loyalty, and the other two directly lower ad revenue.

The choice for cable channels is much clearer, since the corder-cutters are never going to watch their shows on TV anyway.
This is what I've never understood about the 8 day lockout. It keeps you from getting caught up and back watching on the regular schedule!
This is what I've never understood about the 8 day lockout. It keeps you from getting caught up and back watching on the regular schedule!
?? Only if you don't ever have time to watch two episodes in a week?
1. Record next week's episode on your Tivo.
2. Wait another day, watch missed week's episode via internet streaming.
3. Watch current week's episode a day late. Voila, you are now caught up.

The lockout is annoying, but it's hardly a disaster. I've encountered this several times when programming hasn't recorded for one reason or another (power outage, cable outage, preemption by sporting event). Problem only for reality shows where it might be difficult to avoid spoilers.
I think where it popped up for me was shows where I had a 3-way conflict, particularly Vampire Diaries. I was already recording two things in that time slot, but had friends who got together to watch the show. I could go watch with them, except that if I missed an ep I had no way to catch up. (Other than an illegal download...)
?? Only if you don't ever have time to watch two episodes in a week?
1. Record next week's episode on your Tivo.
2. Wait another day, watch missed week's episode via internet streaming.
3. Watch current week's episode a day late. Voila, you are now caught up.

The lockout is annoying, but it's hardly a disaster. I've encountered this several times when programming hasn't recorded for one reason or another (power outage, cable outage, preemption by sporting event). Problem only for reality shows where it might be difficult to avoid spoilers.
For us tech-savvy TiVo owners, sure. But for most people, no cable service == no DVR. So they're SOL unless they want to resort to one of the options I mentioned.
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