Give 'em Hell, Devils
Didn't we see a news report in this episode that North Korea sent an unmanned rocket with supplies? Maybe they'll be able to use those.
I just rewatched that scene. Here's what the newscaster said:I thought the North Korea rocket was the one that failed and ended up crippling Polaris (the SpaceHotel)?
Forgot about that. With so much going on, I'll forgive myself. I might need to start watching it twice before posting.I just rewatched that scene. Here's what the newscaster said:
"According to sources at the Pentagon, the North Korean space program sent their own unmanned probe to the Red Planet in the weeks prior to the launch of Sojourner 1. The North Korean program has struggled to keep pace with other nations and is still on the defensive after debris from one of their failed rockets brought about the Polaris . . ."
and then the channel changes and we don't hear the end of that sentence. So if it's just an unmanned probe, it probably doesn't have supplies that can be used, but maybe that will be the big surprise of the season. They'll think they're about to die and then they find the landing site of the NK ship and it's got tons of supplies they can use.
When Ellen was giving her speech in the MCC FCR, my read was it was just words, she was no longer connected to those people in that room. Aleida saying to Margo "She's one of us" with Margo replying "Not anymore". And Margo was right.I like that one of the big alternative timeline things is right in the show, instead of just, it happened, Gary Hart is President whatever, Ellen Wilson becoming President has direct ramifications in the show.
That's an interesting (and plausible) take on things:But the mission Ed is commanding is going to have to change, at least until Mars. My bet is that whatever Phoenix has to do rescue the surviving crew of the NASA Sojourner One’ and the Soviet Mars-94 vehicles will result that the mission is now a one-way trip and the combined crew will need to survive.
I expect that the Soviets at a minimum did an earth-orbit rendezvous and refuel. SSTO to Mars with return ability would require huge enough delta V that if they had that, they could easily beat everyone else to Mars with a small mission.I'm speculating the Russians carried everything in the Mars-94 vehicle.
Realistically, I think any feasible manned mission to Mars needs to have some capability and reserve for a fueled direct abort. The fuel required isn't that big compared to slowing to low orbit around Mars or taking off again from Mars, so there are a lot of random options here.
Uninformed speculation I think is fine. If you've seen and recall details from season trailers or teasers, I'd spoiler it or keep quiet. So far, for actual aired episodes, I think we know little:Question: Should abject speculation of future plot points be Spoiler Tagged?
In this FAM universe, have we heard whether the North Koreans have even got anything successfully to orbit, let alone to the moon? Seems odd they'd be sending a probe to Mars when they haven't even accomplished those other milestones.Good point. They sent supplies ahead of the manned mission. I guess the Koreans could be doing the same thing...
The original American plan was to launch the supply ship during this window and the manned expedition during the next (two years later). Perhaps Korea was planning to mirror them, and simply couldn't move the manned portion forward..?In this FAM universe, have we heard whether the North Koreans have even got anything successfully to orbit, let alone to the moon? Seems odd they'd be sending a probe to Mars when they haven't even accomplished those other milestones.
Also, if the US/USSR/Helios ships have been underway for weeks now, would the North Koreans have missed the transfer window if they haven't already launched a manned ship?
The don't technically need to do an Earth re-entry though right? They have a moon base where they could send a local shuttle to pick people up. Obviously they'd still have to get to the moon, I'm just pointing out that not being able to land on earth isn't a big deal in their timeline.That's an interesting (and plausible) take on things:
2. Sojourner has been involved with a collision with Mars 94, so there's a good chance the reentry shield isn't good for Earth reentry, and may not even be good for Mars. If they land on Mars, they likely don't have the fuel for taking the full complement home.
Good point, actually.The don't technically need to do an Earth re-entry though right? They have a moon base where they could send a local shuttle to pick people up. Obviously they'd still have to get to the moon, I'm just pointing out that not being able to land on earth isn't a big deal in their timeline.