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Where's the snow?!

Lots of stuff going on in this episode, which seemed to primarily be about playing phone tag with E.

Some decent Ari hustlin' going on, but the way things are now it seems we're stuck with Billy for several more episodes at least :(
 

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I believe the snow was referring to what Billy's script was supposed to be about. That's just a guess though.

I'm getting a little tired of the Billy character as well.

Are there really places in the hills of Los Angeles where there isn't a cell phone signal? Anyone know where that location was?

The new movie... Blade Runner meets Field of Dreams... sounds... horrible. Those two movies are great but they have nothing in common. It's like writing the Star Wars meets The Graduate movie.

Two more episodes left... but... nothing has happened this season. Nothing big anyway. For Vince, that is.
 

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Pretty lame in my opinion... And I'm a huge fan. Seems to have been just a filler episode. Way too easy for Ari to solve the problem. He convinced the studio head and got Billy to Vince's house in an hour or two. Billy has never caved that easy before.
 

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Sirius Black said:
Are there really places in the hills of Los Angeles where there isn't a cell phone signal? Anyone know where that location was?
Yeah, that's kind of hard to believe.

Interesting that we see (for once) just how important E is to the process...and what happens when Ari is forced to stop leaning on E and get the job done himself!
 

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Sirius Black said:
I'm getting a little tired of the Billy character as well.

Are there really places in the hills of Los Angeles where there isn't a cell phone signal? Anyone know where that location was?
I lived in LA for 3 years, and while I didn't have a cell phone then (it was 1990) I know the hills that separate the Valley from Hollywood are probably the answer. You would think that cells and satellites wouldn't care about if you were on a hill or not, but there are magnetic fields at play around certain land features that can play havoc with phone signals. I now live in very flat Miami, and there are plenty of dead spots and other problems with cell signals here. The other issue with cell phones is usage. There are a limited number of call that can be made at the same time in the same area on one network. Either might explain the problem.

Add me to the list of fans that are sick of Billy. His directing and/or writing MUST be genius for people to put up with his crappy attitude. I say let him go back to directing pornos and let's move the story along.
 

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Rob Helmerichs said:
Interesting that we see (for once) just how important E is to the process...and what happens when Ari is forced to stop leaning on E and get the job done himself!
I think you mean how unimportant E is. Ari managed to do a great job at salvaging the best possible outcome out of the situation that Walsh created. If E had been involved, I don't see how it would have turned out better.
 

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Sirius Black said:
The new movie... Blade Runner meets Field of Dreams... sounds... horrible. Those two movies are great but they have nothing in common. It's like writing the Star Wars meets The Graduate movie.
Remember, Dana Gordon hadn't even read the majority of the script. "Blade Runner" and "Field of Dreams" were just an easy way to sell "Futuristic setting" and "Father/son drama." The point was really to show the chasm between scriptwriting/filmmaking and the "high concept" that is the art of the deal.
 

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I think you mean how unimportant E is. Ari managed to do a great job at salvaging the best possible outcome out of the situation that Walsh created. If E had been involved, I don't see how it would have turned out better.
That was exactly my point. Important in the sense that everybody was depending on him, and in his absence everything fell apart, and interesting that when Ari stopped depending on him, things turned out perfectly.
 

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I thought it was a fun, fast-moving episode that managed to push the story along.

As for cell phone coverage, I am sure there are spots with problems. Hills can do nasty things to cell phone coverage.
 

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Sirius Black said:
Are there really places in the hills of Los Angeles where there isn't a cell phone signal? Anyone know where that location was?
I lose my cell phone signal in a couple places during my commute every day. The hills between the San Fernando Valley and Los Angeles are notorious for dropping signals. It's very annoying, but very true. Plus it makes for a good plot device in the show. ;)
 

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I think you mean how unimportant E is. Ari managed to do a great job at salvaging the best possible outcome out of the situation that Walsh created. If E had been involved, I don't see how it would have turned out better.
We'll see about this. I think the script sucks and E hates it. He might have prevented Vince from producing a flop.
 

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Then again, he advised Vince not to go ahead with Snow, and look what happened...
Is what happened a good thing or bad. Good for Vince and Billy. They get to do a movie they like better than clouds. But I don't know if we will know until it is released or at least in production ( I am assuming it will go to production).
 

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Well, E's point (IIRC) is that he thinks Medellin is going to bomb, and thus Billy's next project's value will evaporate before it is released. So what might very well happen is that everybody signs up for the sci-fi movie (which sounds dreadful), Medellin bombs, and everybody abandons Vince like rats from a sinking ship--thus proving E was right all along, at a time when he is increasingly distanced from Vince.
 

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There were some not so subtle hints of how Vince needs E. Turtle and Drama won't read scripts. Vince never used to, but now with the production of Medellin under his belt, looks like he might be more interested in reading. E demonstrated to Anna that he reads a lot of scripts and recalls lots of details, plus has at least some skill in picking good ones. I don't like the whole Anna between VInce and E storyline. At least not if it causes a huge fracture. But it is a new direction for the show and shows some evolution for the characters. Any bets on whether the season finale winds up with Vince firing E?
 

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Vince never used to, but now with the production of Medellin under his belt, looks like he might be more interested in reading.
The difference being, Vince doesn't seem to have any ability to recognize a good script, and E does.
 
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