I don't have a definitive answer to your questions. You may want to do a little research. I suspect that an n router might be necessary to make the Tivo n adapter work as you would hope. I have an elite premiere, a Netgear 600n router, and Tivo n adapter. The faster internet speed seems to make a significant difference and improvement in how well the Tivo 20.2 operates.
Does the tivo N adapter make a difference?
I was wondering about how much better is the tivo if i use a N adapter,I currently use a cisco powerline adapter and am having problems with memory loss on my tivos when using pandora and rhaposdy,i also have trouble using multistreaming (the tivo freezes) anyway the tivo csr i spoke on the phone with recommended i use the N adapter, FYI I have verizon fios . so if you use a tivo N adapter hows your expierence using it ? and since i have 2 tivo premiere do i need 2 N adapters ? or will 1 do? thanks for any advice yo can give me!!
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Please be aware that the TiVo Wireless-n "adapter" is really an Ethernet bridge. It plugs into the Ethernet porton the TiVo and the TiVo treats it like a wired connection. Thus, configuring the wireless-n device with things like your SSID are not done on your TiVo; they are done either by hooking the device to your wired network and going to a Web page on the device from a computer, or, if you can get it to work, doing the "instant setup" procedure on your access point.
Since you already have FIOS you may as well just switch to a MoCa network. You are halfway there already with your MoCa router.
does moca work with a tivo premiere? I thought i read somewhere on these tivo threads that moca only worked with the tivo premier ELITE?
MoCa works with the TIVO Premiere.
But only the Premiere Elite has a MoCA adapter built in, right?MoCa works with the TIVO Premiere.
Interesting that the TIVO csr recommended the Wireless N adapter for streaming. TIVO has specifically stated that they recommend MoCa for streaming. Wireless N would have no problem with Pandora & Rhaposdy, for that matter my experience has been that wireless G had no problem either. I currently have three Premiere with three Wireless N adapters. Transfers are really fast. Streaming works most of the time without problem but sometimes it stutters. I have a Netgear dual band WNDR3700 router. I have the TIVO connecting to the routers on the wireless 5ghz band which is very sensitive to distance walls etc, so you will have to make sure that all of your adapters are spaced taking these things into consideration. Also other wireless devices can present interference if on the same band (such as cordless phones).
Correct only the Elite has MoCa built in.
The CSR's are probably not instructed to promote MoCa on non Elite Tivo's. Most customers don't even know what MoCa is.Interesting that the TIVO csr recommended the Wireless N adapter for streaming. TIVO has specifically stated that they recommend MoCa for streaming. Wireless N would have no problem with Pandora & Rhaposdy, for that matter my experience has been that wireless G had no problem either. I currently have three Premiere with three Wireless N adapters. Transfers are really fast. Streaming works most of the time without problem but sometimes it stutters. I have a Netgear dual band WNDR3700 router. I have the TIVO connecting to the routers on the wireless 5ghz band which is very sensitive to distance walls etc, so you will have to make sure that all of your adapters are spaced taking these things into consideration. Also other wireless devices can present interference if on the same band (such as cordless phones).
It did for me! I went from G to N on 2 TiVo Premiere units and am getting 5-6x the data transfer rate wirelessly than the G connections. MRS, MRV, Pandora, and all internet functions work seamlessly.
Wireless G works perfectly fine with any of the streaming services available on the TiVos. They don't come anywhere close to saturating a G WiFi connection. As long as the WiFi network is setup properly it will work perfectly fine. (properly meaning the network/ AP is not over saturated and you have a proper signal)Many wireless networks are not setup properly.Interesting that the TIVO csr recommended the Wireless N adapter for streaming. TIVO has specifically stated that they recommend MoCa for streaming. Wireless N would have no problem with Pandora & Rhaposdy, for that matter my experience has been that wireless G had no problem either. I currently have three Premiere with three Wireless N adapters. Transfers are really fast. Streaming works most of the time without problem but sometimes it stutters. I have a Netgear dual band WNDR3700 router. I have the TIVO connecting to the routers on the wireless 5ghz band which is very sensitive to distance walls etc, so you will have to make sure that all of your adapters are spaced taking these things into consideration. Also other wireless devices can present interference if on the same band (such as cordless phones).
Just this weekend I installed MOCA for my Bedroom Elite but the MOCA is connected to a switch in the bedroom so I can have a Slingbox hooked up as well and the Tivo. Won't get the 270mbps since it is only a 10/100 switch but I'm streaming fine and connecting out to Tivo apps without issue.Correct only the Elite has MoCa built in.
The MOCA NETGEAR MCAB1001 was just a little bit more expensive then a Tivo N Adapter ($80 on Ebay NIB, and $10 for switch) but I'm happy!!
FWIW
This is why I find the Verizon Actiontec routers to be a better value. There is no need to add a switch and it can double as a wireless access point if needed. Setting it up in bridge mode was super easy. You can buy them for $20-$30 on ebay.Just this weekend I installed MOCA for my Bedroom Elite but the MOCA is connected to a switch in the bedroom so I can have a Slingbox hooked up as well and the Tivo. Won't get the 270mbps since it is only a 10/100 switch but I'm streaming fine and connecting out to Tivo apps without issue.
The MOCA NETGEAR MCAB1001 was just a little bit more expensive then a Tivo N Adapter ($80 on Ebay NIB, and $10 for switch) but I'm happy!!
FWIW
The problem is the first revision of those adapters is very flawed (and you don't know which you are getting off ebay) and none of them have very good wireless performance. They work good as MOCA adapters only though. However, you can't go wrong with the Netgear ones as they work very well.This is why I find the Verizon Actiontec routers to be a better value. There is no need to add a switch and it can double as a wireless access point if needed. Setting it up in bridge mode was super easy. You can buy them for $20-$30 on ebay.
It was my understanding that the poor first generation performance had to do with poor routing/NAT. In this instance you'd disable all NAT functionality and just use it as a switch and MoCA bridge.The problem is the first revision of those adapters is very flawed (and you don't know which you are getting off ebay) and none of them have very good wireless performance. They work good as MOCA adapters only though. However, you can't go wrong with the Netgear ones as they work very well.
That's the only issue I ever experienced. The NAT table is to small to handle torrents, etc.It was my understanding that the poor first generation performance had to do with poor routing/NAT. In this instance you'd disable all NAT functionality and just use it as a switch and MoCA bridge.
Many ebay listings tell you which REV. you are getting. Get a newer version and you will be fine. The oldest I have in my house is REV. C and it works just fine.
Does "setup properly" include dealing with screwy neighbors or otherwise crowded spectrum?As long as the WiFi network is setup properly it will work perfectly fine.
Bottom line, if your having problems with wifi, get a long ethernet cable and plug in. If your issues go away - there you go.
Wifi is convenient, but hardly ideal - especially for bandwidth intensive requirements like streaming high quality video.
I do have a actiontech router with rev.D, so how do i change it to bridge mode? and will this affect my laptop and desktop computers? thanks for any advice i'm kinda new to this moca stuff!
Just to clarify, are you using the Actiontec device as a router now? If so, that device should not be changed to bridge. You need it for routing.
The presence of that router means that you do not need a separate bridge at your router to provide internet access to the Tivo, because the functionality is built into the Actiontec routers.
What the other posters are suggesting is that you would buy a second Actiontec router, turn it into a bridge, and use that to connect your Tivo to your router over the coax. If you have two Tivos and neither are directly connected to the router you would buy one for each Tivo.
The instructions for doing so are here
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1145636
If you're not that familiar with router setup you may want to buy this netgear kit. It's a bit more expensive but is plug and play.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NETGEAR-MCA...299?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fcc6c873
The presence of that router means that you do not need a separate bridge at your router to provide internet access to the Tivo, because the functionality is built into the Actiontec routers.
What the other posters are suggesting is that you would buy a second Actiontec router, turn it into a bridge, and use that to connect your Tivo to your router over the coax. If you have two Tivos and neither are directly connected to the router you would buy one for each Tivo.
The instructions for doing so are here
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1145636
If you're not that familiar with router setup you may want to buy this netgear kit. It's a bit more expensive but is plug and play.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NETGEAR-MCA...299?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45fcc6c873
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