Damages 9/4/2007 *Spoilers*

So, the grandfather is still alive? Wow. She is a nutball!

teknikel said:

So, the grandfather is still alive? Wow. She is a nutball!

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Or...

SHE'S IN ON IT!

From the next episode preview/last scene of this episode, I got the big secret (that's causing Frobisher lawyer's nightmares) is that he (the lawyer) and the guy who gave the restaurant sister the bad id data (Greg?) are lovers (the old surprise gay twist). Thus, it was the lawyer who gave the guy the tip to sell his stock before it tanked.

But, of course, I could be wrong.

This was much better episode than last week.

LBCABob said:

From the next episode preview/last scene of this episode, I got the big secret (that's causing Frobisher lawyer's nightmares) is that he (the lawyer) and the guy who gave the restaurant sister the bad id data (Greg?) are lovers (the old surprise gay twist).

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You didn't get that from the fondling in this episode?

It was the foot tapping and hand signals.

Rob Helmerichs said:

Or...

SHE'S IN ON IT!

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Or...

Maybe the big twist is Ellen's fiance's death is totally unrelated to the case? Sure seems unlikely that Lila works for Frobisher and manages to bump into David. She's definitely a nutjob though!

It makes it look like a crime of passion (for) now.

Certainly the best episode yet. Frobisher is the best character of the series.

I loved Lili holding up the keys she stole and saying "he made me a set!" that's certainly an omen of things to come *or* a great diversion. Between that and the timeframes she, the cops, and Ellen are talking about all not adding up, it's an interesting twist.

I won't be surprised if Lila turns out to be on Patti's payroll.

dianebrat said:

I loved Lili holding up the keys she stole and saying "he made me a set!" that's certainly an omen of things to come *or* a great diversion. Between that and the timeframes she, the cops, and Ellen are talking about all not adding up, it's an interesting twist.

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Except the keys were the ones that she took out of his jacket. If he really gave her a set, he probably would have kept his set with his pocketknife on it and given her a new set. This makes it look like she just kept the set she stole.

TivoFan said:

Except the keys were the ones that she took out of his jacket. If he really gave her a set, he probably would have kept his set with his pocketknife on it and given her a new set. This makes it look like she just kept the set she stole.

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Uh, that's what she said...

I loved Lili holding up the keys she stole and saying "he made me a set!"

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Martha said:

I won't be surprised if Lila turns out to be on Patti's payroll.

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I second that. Patti only needed Ellen for the connections she had (or that's what it seems like). Seems like Patti is setting her up big time... I just want to know why Ellen ends up in Patti's apartment at the end and who cleaned Patti's apartment up.

This show is suddenly getting very interesting with the Lila theatrics. I guess for her to be in on it, the entire thing with the Granddad going into the hospital/etc was faked? That seems like a lot of stuff had to happen and fall into place just to get at David, or perhaps I'm not supposed to be analyzing it that deeply.

At least it's a nice change since for a while it seemed to just be going in circles with Frobisher doing this weird settle/don't settle dance.

I hope they explain the lawyer nightmares in the next show... I'm not terribly interested in seeing any more of those nor am I on the edge of my seat thinking about what's causing them. (Though LBCABob presents a good theory.)

Is anyone else actually impressed with Danson's acting in this program? He's previously played such doofus roles, it's a pleasure to see him in a dramatic role.

Everyone is in on it except for Ellen. This show is getting absurd.

I just want to know why Ellen ends up in Patti's apartment at the end and who cleaned Patti's apartment up.

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The old guy who killed the dog cleaned up the apartment.

From the next episode preview/last scene of this episode, I got the big secret (that's causing Frobisher lawyer's nightmares) is that he (the lawyer) and the guy who gave the restaurant sister the bad id data (Greg?) are lovers (the old surprise gay twist). Thus, it was the lawyer who gave the guy the tip to sell his stock before it tanked.

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I thought this was obvious when he was dreaming about seeing the shrink and she said that loosing teeth could be that he's hiding a very large secret that he doesn't want anyone to know. As soon as he looked up when she said that, I told my wife that he was gay. The touch at the end proved it.

johnperkins21 said:

The old guy who killed the dog cleaned up the apartment.

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If the cops weren't such doofuses they would have tested for blood. There's no way you can clean a floor like that, leave no traces of blood, and leave no trace of your cleanup.

tivogurl said:

If the cops weren't such doofuses they would have tested for blood. There's no way you can clean a floor like that, leave no traces of blood, and leave no trace of your cleanup.

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Unless you just happen to have a spare rug somewhere you can swap out with the one that's stained with blood.

johnperkins21 said:

Unless you just happen to have a spare rug somewhere you can swap out with the one that's stained with blood.

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The problem is the underlying floor is wood. It's both soft and porous. It should have detectable blood stains even if it's been cleaned. How about marks and gouges in the floor from the struggle? How about surveillance video inside the building? The dead guy entered but didn't leave.