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I only receive OTA channels. I had “The Good Doctor” set to record on Monday via Onepass. I had it set to new episodes only. It didn’t record and said the reason was no signal. After I did some investigating, I figured out it was trying to record it off a channel in another state. Next to my local channel that had The Good Doctor, it said duplicate. Does anyone know the reason behind this. The TiVo it set up for my zip code.


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Set the OnePass to record from the correct channel, or maybe all channels might be a better option.
I already have it set for all channels.


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That's the one thing about Tivo boxes that perplexes me. Why does it add channels which I have no way of receiving and are getting no signal from?
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I only receive OTA channels. I had "The Good Doctor" set to record on Monday via Onepass. I had it set to new episodes only. It didn't record and said the reason was no signal. After I did some investigating, I figured out it was trying to record it off a channel in another state. Next to my local channel that had The Good Doctor, it said duplicate. Does anyone know the reason behind this. The TiVo it set up for my zip code.
TiVo has two different stations set for your box in the channel lineup, which receive the show. And then TiVo chose the station that you actually don't get, to record the show. Has happened to me as well, caused by TiVo's faulty way of setting stations in the channel lineup for your TiVo box, which results in the inclusion of stations you don't actually receive.

The solution: delete from your channel lineup the duplicate station that you don't actually receive.
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TiVo has two different stations set for your box in the channel lineup, which receive the show. And then TiVo chose the station that you actually don't get, to record the show. Has happened to me as well, caused by TiVo's faulty way of setting stations in the channel lineup for your TiVo box, which results in the inclusion of stations you don't actually receive.

The solution: delete from your channel lineup the duplicate station that you don't actually receive.
... and pay heed to any Messages re: changes to your channel lineup, and correct any unwanted changes ASAP. It also doesn't hurt to visually check your lineup (Channel Guide) periodically to make sure nothing slipped through.

(Arguably, it would be preferable if TiVo didn't automatically add channels in this way, but I'm sure that there would be consequences if they shifted to an alternate approach of never enabling new channels. And, yes, it would make sense for TiVo not to enable channels for which there's no active signal.)
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And/or, if it's possible, to have a signal check when going to record a show--if there's no signal, fall back to the alternate station that has the show.
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correct any unwanted changes ASAP. It also doesn't hurt to visually check your lineup (Channel Guide) periodically to make sure nothing slipped through.
See also: OTA Channel Settings Channel List
The software change need to find out if adding a channel has a signal would be interesting. Probable it would need to done after 2am since it will need a tuner. The most additions are in pairs for cable (SD & HD). Last week TiVo added the Tennis channel to my TiVo. Maybe I should call them up and tell them I don't pay for that channel.

Only safe thing to do is check any additions done by TiVo and never use All Channels unless you are collecting a program. Then check the TDL frequently.
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I have found the best way to record a season pass is to go to the show on the guide and then set up from there. I wouldn't do all channels because if it is on channel 1 and 2 and 1 is the one you don't get probably record on that since first one.
Don't know the area in which you live but there could be areas of the region that do get that channel and thus setup on your TIVO.
Probable it would need to done after 2am since it will need a tuner.
Our local PBS station goes off-air via OTA between 11pm and 6am each night. Not sure about other stations or their sub-channels.
I already have it set for all channels.

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That's your problem, set it to the channel you want it to record on. If the other channel is duplicate remove it from my channels and use my channels guide.
I tried using just the channel instead of all channels but it will not let me. The option isn’t available. Even when I created a new Onepass. The left and right arrows are not showing up to toggle it off the word all. The channel it was trying to record on is not in my list, it was in a totally different state. Makes no sense to me. I’ve been messing around with the TiVo a lot today and I haven’t figured it out yet. I even redid my entire channels list.


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There's a channel in your guide (with information) but not in your channel list? That's weird.

Does it disappear from the guide when you hit the "A" key in the guide and select "My Channels"?
The channel it was trying to record on is not in my list, it was in a totally different state. Makes no sense to me.
Frankly, that is just not possible (the bit about not being in your list), so either you do not understand what we are trying to tell you, or you are not stating things clearly here.

I have provided some very long and detailed posts in the past about just how Bad_Rovi is mismanaging their channel lists after they killed TiVo, so I won't go into all that again here - search for my old posts and the key word DMA if you are interested.

But to try and get you back on track now, let me state that it is absolutely probable that you have many many channels in your channel list that you cannot receive, even ones in a neighboring state. To fix this, you need to UNCHECK any of those bogus channels in your channel list and also understand the difference between the channel list and the display options in Guide. Do know that your Tivo will attempt to record from ANY channel that is checked in your channel list (look under the Settings menu), even if you do not display that channel in your Guide options. There is no way to actually "remove" these bogus channels from your bloated channel list, but if they are not checked, they will not be available for recording.

For Guide options, using "Channel List" (in HORRIBLE TE4) or "My Channels" in TE3 will display all the checked channels in the actual channel list.
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When I looked at the TiVo history to try and figure out why it did not record the good doctor, it had a list of about ten 11.1 stations. There is only one 11.1 station in my area. So I don’t understand how TiVo came up with all these duplicates. They are nowhere to be found in my list anywhere. In the history it listed the one that it was tempting to record had call letters that I googled and found they are in a neighboring state. The rest of them it had labeled as duplicates. I had the one pass set to record new only. Tivo had the rest labeled as duplicates. I don’t understand this more than anyone else.


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There is only one 11.1 station in my area. So I don't understand how TiVo came up with all these duplicates.
You are not listening! Please actually READ my last reply just above yours, and read it carefully. It contains all the answers you need to understand this and fix it.
When I looked at the TiVo history to try and figure out why it did not record the good doctor, it had a list of about ten 11.1 stations. I don't understand this more than anyone else.
You are not alone. There are bugs in a TiVo that may never be fixed. I have 1P for The Daily Show. In History (Recording Activity) it will frequently show repeats at 1:35am and 1:40am. I used to wonder about that. I gave up years ago.
V7Goose, I have always only had one 11.1 channel checked in my channel list. So what you are saying doesn’t make any sense to me.


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V7Goose, I have always only had one 11.1 channel checked in my channel list. So what you are saying doesn't make any sense to me.

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Perhaps you could take a picture from the relevant page in your channel list, your Guide display, and your recording history and post them here. That would not only make it clear what you are describing, but also what version of the UI you are using.
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