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I just recently purchased the S2DT Tivo for my Non-TV. I'm thinking of returning it and buying a HD Tivo.

I was wondering if the HD Tivo would be able to output the analog cable signals I recieve to my non-HD TV? Also if I get OTA HD will I be able to output it to my non-HD TV through the composite connections?

I plan on upgrading to an HDTV in the future, but don't want to spend the money on one right now. Please help!!

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere, but I can't seem to find it in any of the FAQs/Reviews.

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It should. I currently have my second S3 in the bedroom hooked up to an SD TV. You even get the benefit of watching HD-only channels, of course down-converted to 480i.

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avmike said:
It should. I currently have my second S3 in the bedroom hooked up to an SD TV. You even get the benefit of watching HD-only channels, of course down-converted to 480i.

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Awesome! Thanks for the info. I don't have Component inputs on my TV. Will the HD signal be down-converted to my composite outpus?
 

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Along these lines, can you actually record a HD signal in SD (i.e. downconvert while the recording is happening)? It looks like the hardware is capable. I'm really asking if the software supports it.
 

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Nope.
On digital channels the TiVo just writes the digits to the disk as they come in.
There's no recording quality setting for digital channels nor is there a way to change the recorded resolution.
 

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randomsolutions said:
Awesome! Thanks for the info. I don't have Component inputs on my TV. Will the HD signal be down-converted to my composite outpus?
The added benefit is that the HD signal (either OTA or from the cable company) looks better that anything else that your regular TV will display. We have had our Series3 hooked up to one of our SD TVs and even my wife noticed how much better the HD content looks via S-Video compared to any of the other stuff we have (cable or DirecTV on the SD TV.)
 

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This is mentioned only by it's omission in the specs, but of note is that Series3 and the HD do not have an RF-out, not a deal breaker in this case, but important to keep in mind for folks asking about non-HD sets.

I've seen several threads such as this, and while I don't think it's a huge deal for most, there is the possibility someone might bump in on this thread in "non-HD" research
 

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This is mentioned only by it's omission in the specs, but of note is that Series3 and the HD do not have an RF-out, not a deal breaker in this case, but important to keep in mind for folks asking about non-HD sets.
No RF out - but it takes a pretty old set to only have RF in and no composite video input.

I do have such a set in my bedroom - and the DVD units also lack RF-out (it is just pass-through), so I picked up a cheap RF modulator at RadioShack and connected my RS-TX20 to that.
 

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dianebrat said:
This is mentioned only by it's omission in the specs, but of note is that Series3 and the HD do not have an RF-out, not a deal breaker in this case, but important to keep in mind for folks asking about non-HD sets.

I've seen several threads such as this, and while I don't think it's a huge deal for most, there is the possibility someone might bump in on this thread in "non-HD" research
I think that not having rfout on the tivohd is stupid. Most cable boxes have it and why should people need to run it through a vcr with rca inputs it just uses more electricity than have an rf out on the tivohd.

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I think that not having rfout on the tivohd is stupid. Most cable boxes have it and why should people need to run it through a vcr with rca inputs it just uses more electricity than have an rf out on the tivohd.

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It's not stupid at all - why add the cost of an RF output that almost no one needs or should use?
 

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jfh3 said:
It's not stupid at all - why add the cost of an RF output that almost no one needs or should use?
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It's not stupid at all - why add the cost of an RF output that almost no one needs or should use?
How much is the rf out for a tivo?

If it had an rf out I think more people who don't have HD tv's would get and ditch thier cable company dvr, but without the rf out people who only have a tv with rf in will need to purchase a new tv.

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How much is the rf out for a tivo?
Not much, but lot of CE discussions talk about how much would it cost to add x? or y? The designers must decide, among other things, what is worth keeping? If you have enough to buy a Tivo HD with service, and probably with cable, then you probably have a TV or monitor that has some variation of input other than coax.
 

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ajwees41 said:
How much is the rf out for a tivo?

If it had an rf out I think more people who don't have HD tv's would get and ditch thier cable company dvr, but without the rf out people who only have a tv with rf in will need to purchase a new tv.
I just can't see the RF only input folks wanting a DVR if you ask my opinion.
Add in the fact that if you have an RF output, you have to deal with controlling those RF emissions (if you're a good designer)

I think removing RF out is a great move, and I've never been one to think that it, or a pass-through are required when you can put a single splitter ahead of the Tivo
 

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I just can't see the RF only input folks wanting a DVR if you ask my opinion.
Add in the fact that if you have an RF output, you have to deal with controlling those RF emissions (if you're a good designer)

I think removing RF out is a great move, and I've never been one to think that it, or a pass-through are required when you can put a single splitter ahead of the Tivo
I am one my 27 inch ge tv only came with rf in.

Like I said before most cable dvr's and regular digital boxes have rf out.

how would the splitter work?

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ajwees41 said:
But why did tivo not include it when the cable and satelite companies include it on there boxes?

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Sorry if this comes off as rude, but the market Tivo is going after with an HD capable unit is NOT someone with a television with RF only input. That is why they still have the S2DT units for sale.
 
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