Smart intelligently written TV seems to be dying, in favor of cheap to produce reality and game shows. The Angel finale was on TNT this morning. It certainly was good TV.
Buffy / Angel / Firefly
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Didn't you hear the news? CBS picked up Angel and renamed it to Moonlight. 
And fired all the writers, then hired a high school intern to write it.unicorngoddess said:Didn't you hear the news? CBS picked up Angel and renamed it to Moonlight.
I think Heroes & Pushing Daisies (after it's massive one episode) are up to the same level of creativity as those shows.
Don't live in the past man
Don't live in the past man
I think Buffy and Firefly, as farfetched as the premise is, are done in the real world. They're serious in their way, although funny too. Daisies and Reaper are so tongue-in-cheek--I think after a few episodes they'll get old. You could imagine being a student in Buffy's school and having a normal life except for that whole hell mouth thing.
No I couldn't. Buffy was extremely tongue in cheek.stellie93 said:I think Buffy and Firefly, as farfetched as the premise is, are done in the real world. They're serious in their way, although funny too. Daisies and Reaper are so tongue-in-cheek--I think after a few episodes they'll get old. You could imagine being a student in Buffy's school and having a normal life except for that whole hell mouth thing.
A: Buffy / Angel / Firefly
Q: Shows you couldn't pay me to watch for 2000, Alex.
I suspect one reason is most people didn't like them. They had their niche audiences, but never big drawers. That is why I wonder about all these super-natural shows on the schedule this year... I think most of them are going to fail simply because that is not a mainstream taste. Studios and Networks saw Heroes from last year and decided that is sign enough that these dork shows were in high demand... yet the demand is essentially where it has always been.. Fringe and Niche.
Heroes happens to appeal to a broader, non-sci-fi watching audience as well.
I am on record as not being a fan of the supernatural shows for the most part. Personally I think they are a cop-out when it comes to writing. I like a little more realism in a drama and perhaps something more grounded. Characters and writing make the show, but the sci-fi and supernatural backdrops always allow the writers and producers to take short-cuts whenever they feel like, since the story is not grounded in reality. The story can essentially be made up out of whole cloth with little accountability other than fans complaining something made up does not fit in with something previously made up.
I just know in a general sense those types of shows have NEVER been the biggest audience grabbers when it comes to television. Irregardless of my personal preferences.
Q: Shows you couldn't pay me to watch for 2000, Alex.
I suspect one reason is most people didn't like them. They had their niche audiences, but never big drawers. That is why I wonder about all these super-natural shows on the schedule this year... I think most of them are going to fail simply because that is not a mainstream taste. Studios and Networks saw Heroes from last year and decided that is sign enough that these dork shows were in high demand... yet the demand is essentially where it has always been.. Fringe and Niche.
Heroes happens to appeal to a broader, non-sci-fi watching audience as well.
I am on record as not being a fan of the supernatural shows for the most part. Personally I think they are a cop-out when it comes to writing. I like a little more realism in a drama and perhaps something more grounded. Characters and writing make the show, but the sci-fi and supernatural backdrops always allow the writers and producers to take short-cuts whenever they feel like, since the story is not grounded in reality. The story can essentially be made up out of whole cloth with little accountability other than fans complaining something made up does not fit in with something previously made up.
I just know in a general sense those types of shows have NEVER been the biggest audience grabbers when it comes to television. Irregardless of my personal preferences.
Take a show like Ghost Whisperer, cast it with someone who has the boobie-appeal or whatever, then the TV people think that whole genre is popular and want to copy it.marksman said:A: Buffy / Angel / Firefly
Q: Shows you couldn't pay me to watch for 2000, Alex.
I suspect one reason is most people didn't like them. They had their niche audiences, but never big drawers. That is why I wonder about all these super-natural shows on the schedule this year... I think most of them are going to fail simply because that is not a mainstream taste. Studios and Networks saw Heroes from last year and decided that is sign enough that these dork shows were in high demand... yet the demand is essentially where it has always been.. Fringe and Niche.
Heroes happens to appeal to a broader, non-sci-fi watching audience as well.
I am on record as not being a fan of the supernatural shows for the most part. Personally I think they are a cop-out when it comes to writing. I like a little more realism in a drama and perhaps something more grounded. Characters and writing make the show, but the sci-fi and supernatural backdrops always allow the writers and producers to take short-cuts whenever they feel like, since the story is not grounded in reality. The story can essentially be made up out of whole cloth with little accountability other than fans complaining something made up does not fit in with something previously made up.
I just know in a general sense those types of shows have NEVER been the biggest audience grabbers when it comes to television. Irregardless of my personal preferences.
I was right there with you up until your last line (except that I'd leave Firefly out of your first line). "Irregardless" is not a word, and happens to be one of my grammatical pet-peeves.
Thanks for the catch on the made up word.JLucPicard said:
I think your Ghost Whisperer example is a good one. But in the scheme of things it is not a highly succesful show... It is marginally succesful but enough so to stay on the air... But if it were not for JLH's twins, it might very well be off the air.
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