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Good luck. You say you tried some of the recommendations, what specifically? Did you blank the drive that was in the monthly Bolt and try it again in the problem Bolt? First time you swapped in a drive with TE4 software on it into a TE3 machine, that could be why it didn't work, got the flashing lights. Anyway will be interested in what WK finds and how much they will charge to fix if can be fixed.

You should be able to go back to TE3 on your monthly Bolt and the Minis (well someone mentions a downgrade bug with Minis, I know nothing about that). Monthly Bolt should be no problem though. But will lose all recordings/settings. However since pretty much starting fresh should not matter. I'd do ASAP if you prefer TE3.
You can downgrade the bolt.

But just swapping out hard drives confuses aby tivo.

Plus with bolts you must back things up first before removing any hard drive I am posting a link to pytivo below.

If the drives are back in the correct bolts.

For you to test if all the recordings are still usable. And there.

As it depends on if the bios flash changes. In bolts if it is the hdmi connection that's a 12 dollar cable you can buy at Walmart.

I am posting the link to rolling back a hydra for a romio and mini.

And yes the procedure is the same for a bolt.

As long as the bolt is not a Ota only bolt.

In that case you are stuck with te4.

Hope this helps.


 

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That is not the case, if you can take the time to post a wall of double spaced text, please take a minute and review things before you say them.
There are several unique OTA SKUs on the Bolt that can not be downgraded to TE3, but it is in no way ALL of the Bolt OTAs

To be on the safe side if someone wants to rollback they need to avoid a bolt Ota period this has been stated in many other forums.

And I did check my posts.

I also posted links to other forums to help the user out

And if you bothered to read the mffs. Tools 3.2 thread and the mffs reformator thread which I have read several times. And posted the links for.

It clearly discusses the bios issue with bolts and clearly warns any user with a bolt to back up all their settings and recordings before attempting to copy or remove a hard drive from a bolt.

Due to a risk of the bios flash settings wiping and making the hard drive unusable

I post links to other forums now to try and help out other users.

And the reason for the how to rollback a romio thread was posted by me was to assist the user with the correct procedure which also works on bolts because I have done that procedure 3 times on my romio and both of my bolts.
 

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I am also posting the links to mffs. Tools 3.2 and mffs reformator below, since some seem to want question Info on the bios flash issues with bolts and other issues and these forums can be of better assistance to any users that may need help with there bolts and even other tivos. Such as the romio. In addition to the other forum links I posted earlier

Hope this helps other users out and this user out further.



 

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Also to clarify an earlier post I stated Ota only vox bolts can not downgraded to te3 not the other models of vox bolts.

This was also stated in the forum how to rollback a romio and mini forum I posted a link to earlier by a user in that forum who purchased a bolt vox from tivo directly and rolled it back sucessfully and stated clearly if I could not roll it back I would not have purchased it.

He taught me something I did not know at the time. As I assumed only first generation bolts were the only ones that could be rolled back.
 

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From this list of TiVo model numbers, there is only ONE Bolt Antenna only model, the TCD849500. There is no Bolt Vox Antenna Only version. And there is this statement from TiVo_Ted; "BOLT OTA only supports TE4, and was only manufactured and tested with TE4. There is no way to downgrade to TE3."

Thank you for clarifying that's the model I was referring to.

That's not dowgradable in my first post but yet was Getting told I was wrong.

To be fair at first I thought until someone told me correctly that none of the bolt vox models were downgradable. And that was the post I was referring to in the how to downgrade a romio and mini from hydra forum.

As I spent extra money to avoid any vox model.

In late 2020. Now knowing as Long as it's not that model Bolt, it can be downgraded.

So thank you again for backing me up.

As I am just trying to help and that's why I am also posting links to other forums.

To help others.
 

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Thank you for clarifying that's the model I was referring to.

That's not dowgradable in my first post but yet was Getting told I was wrong.

To be fair at first I thought until someone told me correctly that none of the bolt vox models were downgradable. And that was the post I was referring to in the how to downgrade a romio and mini from hydra forum.

As I spent extra money to avoid any vox model.

In late 2020. Now knowing as Long as it's not that model Bolt, it can be downgraded.

So thank you again for backing me up.

As I am just trying to help and that's why I am also posting links to other forums.

To help others.
I just read through that message and post on how to downgrade a romio and mini from hydra and I saw that was you pl 1 who taught me that so thank you for teaching me that back in Sept 2021. In that forum and once again backing me up. When I cited that. In This forum and even brought up that forum. And post.

I did not want to get into nitpicking but I apreciate your replying in this forum.

And if you remember I tried an experiment with my romio to see if a hard drive that was running on te4 could work after a downgrade on my romio but got an error message.

But did with success discover you can toggle back and forth between te3 and te4 with different hard drives in case backups and restores need to be done on other tivo's.

Using a romio.

Unlike a bolt.
 

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I'm sure I've seen a cross reference chart showing a Bolt OTA taking a TE3 downgrade, but since I can't find it, I can't back it up at this time, I'll take the hit on that.


I am posting the link from the forum that pl1 posted from the how to downgrade a romio and mini from. Hydra he cleared that up for me in 2021.

That's why I am posting links to other forums.

As the goal is to help others and learn not criticize as their are times I learned too.

Now if you want to debate him that's on you.

Here is the pdf pl1 posted in September 2021

On the forum how to rollback a romio and mini from hydra


 

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I am posting the quote directly from the how to rollback a romio and mini from hydra.

From member pl1 earlier in that forum I believe it was him that taught me that and even posted a picture of the bolt he is referencing.

After having a discussion over this as I got confused from some posts in the mffs reformator forum which I posted links to earlier as when hydra first came out there was a debate and confusion over which bolts could be downgraded.





I can tell you this, I have a TiVo Bolt Vox 500 GB Model# TCD849500V which came with TE4 from TiVo and I easily downgraded to TE3. The only Bolt that can not be downgraded is the Over The Air Model Model# TCD849500. https://support.tivo.com/articles/FAQ/TiVo-Service-Number-and-Model-Number-Table

That said, These instructions say that you need to hit the thumbs down 2 times, but I think it was 3 times for me.

1.) Go into Menu- Help- Reset to Defaults- Repeat Guided Setup- Select
2.) Press Thumbs Down 2 times (NOT 3!), now press Rewind 2 times, Now press Select (not Enter)
3.) Roamio will immediately go to that right arrow screen, then screen blank, then you'll get a message letting you know that the rollback process has begun

And this:

Its actually (at least on the Bolt I just got) Help -> Reset To Defaults -> Restart Guided Tour
(the the rest is correct)


Otherwise, if you really want to go there, you could try a factory reset and try again once you are back up and running, but you will lose your cableCARD pairing if you do that, so forewarned!
 

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Mistakes are okay the purpose of the links is to if another user has the same issues, have the links to the resources they need.


Instead of having to search through piles of forums to find the resources they need.

To help solve their issues.

As for mffs.tools 3 2 that is a very relevant resource as it allows a user to copy a failing drive even in bolts. To another drive of the same size or bigger.

And that's the purpose of posting links to other forums and resources.

All have relevance depending on which method another user chooses.

Same with the pytivo link.

As a user can back up what they want to keep.

Before hand

As for mffs reformator that is simpler to use vs mffs tools. 3.2 if a user wants to go over 3tbs. And works up to 8tbs.

We all have our methods I like things a certain way but for another user.

My way might not be practical for them.
 

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If I were a betting man, I’d guess voice-to-text with no draft editing.

It's a phone app, does not always, give me the same features as on my computer, which I have not been to in about 4 months.

I will say the redesigned site. Is a lot better for posting links and quickly finding the forums to site and post.

But my phones auto correct, is still annoying as I will type in the correct word, and my phone will change it to something that makes no sense.

I do try to catch it before posting, but sometimes it just does what it wants.

I hate voice to text or features like Google voice or Alexa.

I hate those features on my computer too and do not use them.
 
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