Boardwalk Empire 11/13/2011 "Two Boats and a Lifeguard"

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Family

Discussion Starter · Nov 15, 2011

This is currently my favorite show.

Nucky's going back door to recontrol the game and it's so obvious that even not usually perceptive Eli sees it. Team Jimmy certainly won't win if its leader takes advice from mom. The new regime had its moments though like when Jimmy sent Mickey over the balcony.

Rothstein is my favorite. Nucky complained to Margaret, "Must I pretend with you?" and in scene one Rothstein called his boys out for pretending ("the smell of manure') Later the NY boss gave once rival Nucky straight solid honest advice. The three bosses have discovered commonalities such as it's lonely at the top especially when you have aggressive pups like Capone/Lucky/Jimmy.

I like the woman investigating Nucky. Much better than Van Alden who continues to become more and more a cartoon character. What a joke the scene was with Van Alden rejecting the free lunch (after reciting how important and moral he is). What else can they do with him after the ridiculousness of last years drowning and the horrible storyline with skank?

Not enough Richard, but in the little screentime it seems his "mask" appeared a little beat up. Maybe the dog chewed it. Thankfully Jimmy offered him a new one, but first he's got to get his "doomed to fail" administration off the ground.

Only 4 episodes left.... not fair!

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pmyers

· #2 · Nov 15, 2011

I love this show too.

Looks like Nucky is taking the: retreat to fight another day, strategy.

I too, am sick of Van Alden and anything related to him.

Looks like the Commodore is starting to get some speech back.

MikeAndrews

· #3 · Nov 16, 2011

Family said:
This is currently my favorite show.

Nucky's going back door to recontrol the game and it's so obvious that even not usually perceptive Eli sees it. Team Jimmy certainly won't win if its leader takes advice from mom. The new regime had its moments though like when Jimmy sent Mickey over the balcony.

In the "afterwards" Van Patten says that Jimmy had to show "Boychick" that he is nto to be messed with.

Family said:
Rothstein is my favorite. Nucky complained to Margaret, "Must I pretend with you?" and in scene one Rothstein called his boys out for pretending ("the smell of manure') Later the NY boss gave once rival Nucky straight solid honest advice. The three bosses have discovered commonalities such as it's lonely at the top especially when you have aggressive pups like Capone/Lucky/Jimmy.

I like the way they play Rothstein and Meyer ("let's make a deal") Lansky.

I'm wondering what a stretch and pain it would have been for Johnny Torio to hop a train from Chicago to Atlantic City. It's not like it would be a trip of a few hours from Chicago. For Rothstein it's a half day's (?) drive. Remember he sent Al to deliver the message earlier that they don't need any more booze from Nucky.

"Where's Romulus?"
"Who's dat? His partner?"

If you watched closely you saw what Nucky is up to. He got the idea to sail to Ireland from the game.

He's going to trade or sell the surplus Tommy guns from the Armory to the IRA in Belfast.

(What I'd like to see is them coming a across a guy named Darrow with the design for a new board game based on Atlantic City streets.

I guess that doesn't happen for another 10-15 years.)

Family said:
I like the woman investigating Nucky. Much better than Van Alden who continues to become more and more a cartoon character. What a joke the scene was with Van Alden rejecting the free lunch (after reciting how important and moral he is). What else can they do with him after the ridiculousness of last years drowning and the horrible storyline with skank?

I like her deep blue eyes. Where have we seen her before?
Ya think Van Alden can keep his hands off of the nanny?

Family said:
Not enough Richard, but in the little screentime it seems his "mask" appeared a little beat up. Maybe the dog chewed it. Thankfully Jimmy offered him a new one, but first he's got to get his "doomed to fail" administration off the ground.

The mask was already peppered with holes before the dog took it. I don't remember but Richard must have been hit with some buckshot.

Family said:
Only 4 episodes left.... not fair!

Yeah. Boardwalk Empire is in my weekend must-see rotation with Homeland and Boss. I just had to to tweak my SP priority to get it on Sunday.

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john4200

· #4 · Nov 16, 2011

Family said:
What a joke the scene was with Van Alden rejecting the free lunch (after reciting how important and moral he is).

I thought that scene was more subtle than you imply. Van Alden initially rejected the free lunch, but at the end, he balled up the bill and did not appear to pay. In between, he asked the other agent whether he thought what they were doing, enforcing the alcohol ban, was right (morally right vs. lawful, I didn't catch the Latin phrases, but that is what he was talking about). The other guy basically said no, it was not right, all things considered. I think Van Alden agreed. Then it seemed like Van Alden figured if they were doing one thing that was not right, what the hell, he may as well accept the free lunch. Additionally, I guess Van Alden did not want to accept the free lunch if he might get in trouble for it from the other agent. So he was sizing up the other agent on whether he was a "by the book" kind of guy.

MikeAndrews

· #5 · Nov 16, 2011

How about Nucky with Owen, as he sees him with Margaret, "What were you doing when I got shot?" "Is there someone Irish you want to tell me about?"

As his life passes before his eyes.

jradosh

· #6 · Nov 16, 2011

I'm sure we're meant to recognize the name of the woman on the beach with the 'scandalously short swimsuit'... and the name of the character from the book she's writing. But I was never good with literature so I didn't catch the reference. Can anyone tell me who she was (and who her "writer friend" was supposed to be)?

Another great episode with solid acting. I'm thinking Dabney Coleman deserves a "Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series" Emmy. :up:

Anubys

· #7 · Nov 16, 2011

pmyers said:
Looks like the Commodore is starting to get some speech back.

Do you think he can now say "stop slapping me!"?

I did notice than Van Alden did not pay for the lunch. He is also still stealing, I think.

photoshopgrl

· #8 · Nov 16, 2011

I have to watch this again because I was constantly interrupted during it and missed so much.

Had to weigh in real fast on 2 things though.

1. Rothstein is ah-mazing. More please! Agree with everything being said about him in this thread. So cool. So charismatic. So much smarter than everyone else. Makes me want him to have a bigger role in the show.
2. Owen and Nucky at the end was made of win. The actor playing Owen did a fantastic job of showing the fear and attempting to try not to show it at the same time. It's pretty much exactly what I'd expect the facial expression of someone in real life [thinking he was] being called out to look like.

cheesesteak

· #9 · Nov 16, 2011

What has Jimmy done to be unanimously anointed the new "king" other than be the Commodore's bastard? He's yet to show any significant intelligence, just the occasional violence.

zalusky

· #10 · Nov 16, 2011

It's about the muscle. Jimmy is demonstrating the muscle (for now)!

john4200

· #11 · Nov 16, 2011

jradosh said:
I'm sure we're meant to recognize the name of the woman on the beach with the 'scandalously short swimsuit'... and the name of the character from the book she's writing. But I was never good with literature so I didn't catch the reference. Can anyone tell me who she was (and who her "writer friend" was supposed to be)?

Louise was probably Louise Bryant. But I don't think she actually published a novel with a Molly Fletcher character.

I'm not sure what "writer friend" you are talking about, but her friend Arthur from the party may have been Arthur Murray.

tiams

· #12 · Nov 16, 2011

cheesesteak said:
What has Jimmy done to be unanimously anointed the new "king" other than be the Commodore's bastard? He's yet to show any significant intelligence, just the occasional violence.

Being the Commodore's son counts for a lot. The Commodore and his very rich cronies built the city.

jradosh

· #13 · Nov 16, 2011

john4200 said:
Louise was probably Louise Bryant. But I don't think she actually published a novel with a Molly Fletcher character.

I'm not sure what "writer friend" you are talking about, but her friend Arthur from the party may have been Arthur Murray.

At the beach she mentioned a "writer friend" by name, but I don't recall it.

john4200

· #14 · Nov 16, 2011

jradosh said:
At the beach she mentioned a "writer friend" by name, but I don't recall it.

No, Louise did NOT mention a "writer friend", not at the beach, nor at the party. Louise only mentioned two names (other than her own): Molly Fletcher, a character in the novel she is writing, and her friend Arthur (a Hoofer) from the party.

jradosh

· #15 · Nov 16, 2011

john4200 said:
No, Louise did NOT mention a "writer friend", not at the beach, nor at the party. Louise only mentioned two names (other than her own): Molly Fletcher, a character in the novel she is writing, and her friend Arthur (a Hoofer) from the party.

I'll go back and re-watch the scene. I could have sworn that she did.

markz

· #16 · Nov 16, 2011

Family said:
I like the woman investigating Nucky.

netringer said:
I like her deep blue eyes. Where have we seen her before?

Julianne Nicholson from L&O:CI

jradosh

· #17 · Nov 16, 2011

jradosh said:
At the beach she mentioned a "writer friend" by name, but I don't recall it.

john4200 said:
No, Louise did NOT mention a "writer friend", not at the beach, nor at the party. Louise only mentioned two names (other than her own): Molly Fletcher, a character in the novel she is writing, and her friend Arthur (a Hoofer) from the party.

jradosh said:
I'll go back and re-watch the scene. I could have sworn that she did.

Of course you're right. Damn... it's amazing how the mind can totally be convinced of something that really never happened.

Now about those aliens in the final scene...

john4200

· #18 · Nov 16, 2011

jradosh said:
Of course you're right. Damn... it's amazing how the mind can totally be convinced of something that really never happened.

Don't forget that $100 you owe me!

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