[jilter]

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I never realized how closely Harry Dean Stanton resembles this guy.
Unbelievable!

 

[Jesda]

Ahh, perverts. These polygatards should all be killed.

 

[dswallow]

Mr. Jeffs, 51, faces up to life in prison.

That's absurd. He wasn't even charged with rape; he was charged with two counts of being an "accomplice" to rape. Argue all you want about rape and sex and control and polygamy, et. al., but nothing about what he did in this case warrants the possibility of a life sentence. Nothing at all. This is all about persecution, not prosecution.

What about the girls parents/guardians? What about the boys parents? Were they aware of the marriage? Aren't they all guilty of the same thing, too? And who'd be more culpable, if we're gonna go this prosecutorial route?

And finally, considering all that organized religion can get away with all be being under the category of "religion" I'm further surprised absolutely no consideration seems to have been given to that argument. I guess only religions accepted by the majority get that protection.

The whole thing stinks.

 

[jilter]

Yeah, but ya gotta admit, he looks alot like HDS.

 

[anom]

When I saw the title of this thread, I assumed that Bill Paxton had married two more women.

 

[dcheesi]

Actually there was some reality show/special the other night about "my three wives".

I didn't watch it, but it looked more like Big Love than that preacher's scheme. All the wives were mature women, even the new one; whereas the jerk in the news is all about arranged (forced) "marriages" with underage girls.

 

[dcehl]

"polygatards" - rotfl!

I agree with dswallow - what, because the guy pulled a jedi mind trick he gets life in prison. There seem to be a whole bunch of people in the news lately who have done a whole lot worse and did not get Life.

 

[sieglinde]

At least in my state, having sex with underage children is against the law if one of the partners is more than three years older as the 19 year old man was.

I think the fact that the two towns were a law unto themselves disturbs people. The fact this one Fascist dictator had control over those people who found it hard to leave because he had them fooled into thinking he spoke for a God. I don't know what evil god he worshiped but he was a cruel and evil master.

 

[dswallow]

I think the fact that the two towns were a law unto themselves disturbs people. The fact this one Fascist dictator had control over those people who found it hard to leave because he had them fooled into thinking he spoke for a God. I don't know what evil god he worshiped but he was a cruel and evil master.

Please explain how that differs from any other priest/minister/preacher, other than by a difference of opinion of what sorts of things are right or wrong.

 

[mattack]

That's absurd. He wasn't even charged with rape; he was charged with two counts of being an "accomplice" to rape. Argue all you want about rape and sex and control and polygamy, et. al., but nothing about what he did in this case warrants the possibility of a life sentence. Nothing at all. This is all about persecution, not prosecution.

By this argument, why is Manson in prison? AFAIK, he personally didn't kill anybody.

(He's clearly a nutjob though.)

 

[phox_mulder]

Link

I never realized how closely Harry Dean Stanton resembles this guy.
Unbelievable!

Since day one of Big Love, I was under the assumption that Roman was based on Warren Jeffs.

Jeffs also liked to travel around in big red SUV's, and was captured in one of them.

I don't believe he ever used Hummers though.

Let that be a lesson, if you're on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted, drive around in the biggest reddest vehicle you can, it's like you're invisible.

phox

 

[GDG76]

So if I set up my 17 yr old brother on a date and something happens on that date, I'm responsible for it?

BS ruling. Then again I never understood the polygamy laws. Who really cares if someone wants three wives or husbands? If it's consensual, have at it.

 

[Domandred]

BS ruling. Then again I never understood the polygamy laws. Who really cares if someone wants three wives or husbands?

That was part of the problem with this case. Jeffs was not charged with polygamy, and the marriage/rape in question was not a polygamous marriage. Nobody in this case was charged with polygamy as there was no polygamy involved directly in this case.

The husband/rapist was not charged with rape, and was on the DEFENSE side so didn't cut a deal with the prosecution to get out of charges.

The parents of the girl were not charged with accessory even they were just as much if not more culpable then Jeffs.

The trial was a travesty of justice imo. Yes Jeffs is a scumbag, but he is not guilty of the charges levied against him in the State of Utah. The jury tried him on polygamy and his religion, not on the actual charges.

I don't know enough about the charges against him in Arizona other then the Utah case was supposed to be a stronger case and why he was tried there first. I do know that like Utah the husband/rapist and parents are not charged with any crimes in Arizona either, only Jeffs is.

 

[Royster]

Please explain how that differs from any other priest/minister/preacher, other than by a difference of opinion of what sorts of things are right or wrong.

Ummm. There are lots of priests and ministers who don't attempt to exert control over the lives of their followers.

 

[dswallow]

Ummm. There are lots of priests and ministers who don't attempt to exert control over the lives of their followers.

That's untrue. Different levels of control, perhaps, but by definition they exert control.

 

[JETarpon]

At least in my state, having sex with underage children is against the law if one of the partners is more than three years older as the 19 year old man was.

There is usually a clause that it is allowed if the couple is married.

 

[sieglinde]

I have no problem with polygamy. It is the underage children thing I have a problem with. The fact the girl did not want to be married to the guy was reason enough to call it rape.