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Big Brother 13 - Veto and Eviction - 09/07/11

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SoBelle0
Why did Jordan throw a pity vote at Kalia... And force Rachel to play the bad guy. Rachel is carrying her right now... She couldn't give a bit in return?

I adore Jordan! However, I am totally rooting for Rachel to get the big prize. I think Jordan is part of what's keeping Rachel grounded, but Jordan also needs to win sometimes.
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nyny523
OK, first of all - what was the point of even showing us the Veto competition and the Veto ceremony when they start the show with Kalia and Porsche on the block? We knew they were the nominees - and clearly nothing changed. If they really wanted to keep us guessing, they would have started the show with NO ONE in the nominee chairs and revealed it after they showed the Veto footage.

Stupid.

As for Jordan voting out Porsche - I agree with you SoBelle. She had, however, discussed this with Rachel and Rachel was fine with it. Jordan did not want to break her word/deal with Kalia (which I thought was only that they wouldn't nominate each other, but apparently also included voting for each other? Whatever).

Also, Kalia's crying about Adam not making the big move. The only person who would have benefited from that was HER! Why should he help her? She voted to evict him last week! These people are SO stupid!!!

Honestly - of the 4 left, Rachel deserves it the most. I never thought I would ever say this, but I hope she wins. Right now, either she or Jordan need that veto to control their destiny. If Porsche wins veto, Rachel or Jordan go home (probably Rachel). If Adam wins, I suspect he keeps his word and Porsche goes home - but who knows?

Should be good tomorrow!
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gossamer88
I felt it was a good move of Jordan and Adam to make Rachel the bad guy here.
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nyny523 said:
Honestly - of the 4 left, Rachel deserves it the most. I never thought I would ever say this, but I hope she wins.
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I can't believe it either but I hope Rachel wins. Jordan though I think kept her in check a few weeks ago and made her a more likable person over the last few weeks.

I found it strange Rachel was actually the voice of reason when Jordan went off on Shelly.

I think even if Adam wins the rest of the comps Rachel by far deserves it for game play.

I hope she gets the 500K. I hope the Jury house puts aside their feelings and votes on who played the best game by far.
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nyny523 said:
OK, first of all - what was the point of even showing us the Veto competition and the Veto ceremony when they start the show with Kalia and Porsche on the block? We knew they were the nominees - and clearly nothing changed. If they really wanted to keep us guessing, they would have started the show with NO ONE in the nominee chairs and revealed it after they showed the Veto footage.

Stupid.

As for Jordan voting out Porsche - I agree with you SoBelle. She had, however, discussed this with Rachel and Rachel was fine with it. Jordan did not want to break her word/deal with Kalia (which I thought was only that they wouldn't nominate each other, but apparently also included voting for each other? Whatever).

Also, Kalia's crying about Adam not making the big move. The only person who would have benefited from that was HER! Why should he help her? She voted to evict him last week! These people are SO stupid!!!

Honestly - of the 4 left, Rachel deserves it the most. I never thought I would ever say this, but I hope she wins. Right now, either she or Jordan need that veto to control their destiny. If Porsche wins veto, Rachel or Jordan go home (probably Rachel). If Adam wins, I suspect he keeps his word and Porsche goes home - but who knows?

Should be good tomorrow!
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Agreed with the bolded. She kept begging him to make a big bold move. Well, no matter what his decision was, he was joining up with a pair. She was just pissed that it was not her pair he picked. Kalia said "you know Rachel and Jordan will take each other to the finals", well so would she and Porsche. And give me a f'ing break about it being unfair.

And wow did Jeff come across as a tool in the meeting with Shelly. Maybe it was all edit, but I'm not so sure.
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jcondon said:
I think even if Adam wins the rest of the comps Rachel by far deserves it for game play.

I hope she gets the 500K. I hope the Jury house puts aside their feelings and votes on who played the best game by far.
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You would hope, but if the past few seasons are any indication (WTH, just about all the seasons) the jury will use three criteria to choose the winner:

1) Emotion.
2) Emotion.
3) Emotion.

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Rachel's social and strategic game sucks, though. She's a fierce physical competitor, but that's all she has going for her. If either Adam or Porsche win out, they'll have a legitimate case to make for why they deserve to win over her.
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nyny523 said:
Also, Kalia's crying about Adam not making the big move. The only person who would have benefited from that was HER! Why should he help her? She voted to evict him last week! These people are SO stupid!!!
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Not really. I think Rachel/Jordan are little more closely aligned than Kalia/Porche.

Plus, I don't get Adam's resentment for Kalia voting to evict him last week. He was up against Shelly who was part of that short-lived alliance longer than Adam was. Adam is acting as if he was choosing a member of a different alliance over him. To me, he was just using that as a reason to justify voting her out this week.
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bryhamm said:
And wow did Jeff come across as a tool in the meeting with Shelly. Maybe it was all edit, but I'm not so sure.
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I agree. I like Jeff, but I liked him more the first season he was on than I do this season. I'm not sure what part he doesn't understand when Shelly says "you and Jordan would have taken each other over me to the final two".

And I can't believe Rachel of all people said "cry me a river" when Kalia was crying about losing the Veto. Rachel cries (or fake cries) about everything.
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Jordo - A shark would eat a fish pie! Worthless player but adorable.
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RichardHead
nyny523 said:
Honestly - of the 4 left, Rachel deserves it the most.
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Seriously? The only reason she is still in the game is due to Brendon's return to the house ... she would have been next to go ... and lucking out (and I say that tongue in cheek) with the second Pandora's Box making pairs again.

She is a horrible social player, relying on emotion, threats and intimidation.

I will never watch another season of this show if veterans are allowed back in and/or the ridiculous couples as a team crap is introduced again.

Burn in hell Allison!
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From start of the season till now, I would give Rachel most improved player. When Brendan left, she was a nutcase. After he left the second time, she actually focused on the game with Jordan.

Kalia was crazy to imply it was Adam's best interest to stick with the newbies. At this point, the only person he should be able to beat is Jordan. Though I would say she was a far better player than I originally gave her credit for, but sometimes shes a bit dense. I know Rachel said she wanted a competitor to win, but if Kalia and Porche are actively gunning for her, she can't exactly go after floaters.

I don't get people on the jury that act like they made brilliant moves. Dani tried to take down her own alliance like weeks early. Jeff focused on such an "Us vs. Them" game that he was a slim pick to make the finals. Shelly's flop was so short sided. With Jeff and Jordan, she likely would have made final 3. She likely could have beat them both, assuming she didn't throw that comp like every other comp this season. :p

I get the Porche diary room edit, but shes just not as funny as Brittany from last year. That said, I don't care if she has sharp knees. She is still nice to look at.
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Not really. I think Rachel/Jordan are little more closely aligned than Kalia/Porche.

Plus, I don't get Adam's resentment for Kalia voting to evict him last week. He was up against Shelly who was part of that short-lived alliance longer than Adam was. Adam is acting as if he was choosing a member of a different alliance over him. To me, he was just using that as a reason to justify voting her out this week.
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Prior to the eviction, Kalia had made a "final 2" deal with Adam. Not only did she not keep the deal secret (she blabbed it, of course, and everyone found out), but then she turns around and votes to evict him? How could he possibly trust her?

Add to that the campaigning she did - several times she implied that she and Porsche had "allowed" him to win the veto (not true).

He was pissed at her - no way was he keeping her in the house.
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RichardHead said:
Seriously? The only reason she is still in the game is due to Brendon's return to the house ... she would have been next to go ... and lucking out (and I say that tongue in cheek) with the second Pandora's Box making pairs again.

She is a horrible social player, relying on emotion, threats and intimidation.

Burn in hell Allison!
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But isn't that what makes her an even more amazing competitor? She's the worst social player, but continues to survive in the house. If she had a non-existent personality it would be one thing. But she has to work hard to overcome her social game. I give her props for that. She definitely used to drive me insane, but since Brendan was evicted the second time, she has really grown on me.
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tiams
I hope Rachel does not win because she has been given so many unfair advantages. First, she had the benefit of experience, secondly she was given a built in alliance with the veterans and an unconditionally loyal partner in Brendan. Her partner was allowed back in the house after he was evicted, the Pandora's box twist saved her, the veto competition last week was tailor made for her seeing how she had already won the exact same challenge once before, etc. etc.
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