[Justin Thyme]

Except it really is Tivo lite. No internet IPTV, no transfering video to laptops or ipods, no multi room viewing, no Yahoo features, no upgrading your machine up to to 2 Terabytes. No playing video from P2P networks.

But otherwise- just the same.

So there will be plenty to step up to when moving to a standalone Tivo.

 

[Justin Thyme]

The only item I care about in that list is upgrading the storage. You said 2T is out... Can I get it to 750G or 1T? Where can I go to find this out? I'll be checking out dbstalk.com based on another discussion in another section--any others you'd recommend?

Thanks.

As Mike and Classic correctly point out- what I listed aren't available with an S3 today. I am taking the longer view of the S3 and personally believe the MRV/TTG limitation is temporary- and that one way or another we will be able to transfer digital channels. It is possible it won't turn out that way and cautious folks may want to take classicAt's suggestion.

Regarding Tivo lite, I recall DT-DC saying he swapped a larger drive into his Moto unit, and it recognized the hard drive. There is chatter about how to do that on avsforum- you do it to the cableco machine without their knowlege or approval, but you save the drive so you can put it back the way it was later. However- this sort of thing is an OS feature, and I don't think DT was running the TVWorks layer that the Comcast Tivo-lite is being built on top of.

Could be they have an eSata and it is enabled. That would be nice, but who knows maybe Cable will put the Kabash on that. Who knows.

 

[Justin Thyme]

For TiVo, IPTV means internet delivered content, such as TiVocast, Unbox, and OneTrueMedia, not real IPTV like uVerse). The Series 3 does support the aforementioned Internet TV services, the CC TiVo won't.

First off, just in case anyone got confused by the way you put this, Tivocast, Unbox, OnetrueMedia does work on the Series 3.

The discussion of whether IPTV is real or not if it is not transferred in real time is important only if real time Television viewing is important. Aside of isolated cases such as major sporting events, I am not sure why the distinction is relevant to Tivo users.

Like OK great- Project Lightspeed has been spending a KaJillion bucks on their all IP network- the ice cream truck gets a police escort to the curbSure, but then WTF does all that matter- the DVR is just going to take all those high priority packets and stick the show in the freezer anyway.

After all- since "real" IPTV is on a closed network, why does it matter to us what the network is talking- So long as it is efficient, it could be talking SNA or in Heinz Ketchup Packets for all we care. What gets people excited is that there might be a leveling of the playing field for video as what happened with text and pictures on the internet.

Sure, internet TV is not the same as IPTV, but the set top boxes that can reliably display video from the internet sites of small businesses is what could be part of a sea change. IPTV? Who cares. If Cisco comes out with something 3 times more efficient than IP, then no one will care about the IP in IPTV.