9.2 Bug fix summary thread

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moyekj

Discussion Starter · Oct 16, 2007

Intent of this thread is to capture any 9.2 bug fixes, specifically compared to 9.1 software. I hope there are not any significant new bugs introduced by 9.2 but I suppose if there are I can also add a section on that.

TivoPony's comments about 9.2 release posted here
NOTE: Since 9.2 is being released only to S3/THD units I'm removing the bugs related to S2 units in the list below.

9.1 BUGS
Fixed in 9.2

[*]FIXED: Wishlist bug: When you view Upcoming Episodes of a WL, then back out to the WL, then back out to the main WL screen you are not returned to the WL you entered.
[*]FIXED: To Do List bug: After deleting an item from To Do List, not returned to the deletion point in the list.
[*]FIXED: 1 or both tuners go dark requiring a reboot to fix

Not fixed in 9.2

FF/REW and skip back/30-sec skip on S3/THD units have noticeable delays/freezes compared to 8.3 software for HD playback only (SD seems OK). If you 30-sec skip in quick succession you only see a frozen video frame unless you slow down the skips. There is also a slight freeze when exiting these trick play functions.
REPORTED NOT FIXED: here,here,here,here,here,etc
REPORTED FIXED (OR BETTER): here,here
2nd cablecard failures requiring a reboot to fix
REPORTED FIXED BY TIVOPONY here
HOWEVER REPORTED NOT FIXED: here, here
Larger fonts cause channel names to be truncated in certain lists (for example in the To Do and Upcoming Programs lists). See here
S3 HDMI handshake problem for some users - causes reboots
REPORTED NOT FIXED here
Lockup occurs if attempt is made to edit a manual recording for a clear QAM channel on season pass list. (NOTE: This issue does not affect those with CableCards. It is discussed here
REPORTED NOT FIXED here - editing no longer locks up Tivo, but it still cannot be edited so still a bug.
Re-entering the SP list always resets cursor to entry #1. Mentioned here
Frame by frame advance bug. Often (but not always), frame by frame advance (using FF button while paused) does NOT advance the frame - especially if you paused while using slow motion and then try frame by frame advance. Mentioned not fixed here

Status unknown in 9.2

Lengthy audio drops after pausing/rewinding/ff when using Dolby Digital audio

PERSONAL NOTE: It looks like many of the the bugs are reverting to NOT FIXED status. Personally though I have not had any significant issues with 9.2 compared to 9.1. I think it's a big improvement as others have posted as well and obviously Tivo thought it was an improvement over 9.1 or they would have not been so quick to push 9.2 to S3/THD units. So while some bugs are not totally fixed for all I think some issues were fixed for some/many which the above lists do not reflect.

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moyekj

Discussion Starter · #2 · Oct 16, 2007

I see some comments by bown of some potential fixes but I think they are too vague at this point to make any certain conclusions, (plus I'm not even sure if that was a tongue in cheek type post with wishful thinking or these are actual observations):
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5603128&&#post5603128

bown said:
cablecard issue fixed
menu bug fixed
30 sec skip fixed

sinanju

· #3 · Oct 17, 2007

I can confirm the following:

30-second skip is snappy again
All menu navigation problem of which I am aware (including the ones you mention -- to do, wishlist) are fixed.

moyekj

Discussion Starter · #4 · Oct 17, 2007

sinanju said:
I can confirm the following:

30-second skip is snappy again

All menu navigation problem of which I am aware (including the ones you mention -- to do, wishlist) are fixed.

Thanks for the update, the 30 sec skip fix alone is huge! Did you test it on HD playback (for S3 and/or THD units)? i.e. With 9.1 if I hit the 30 sec skip several times per second during HD playback it will just show the 1st and last video frame. In 9.2 is that still the case or does it update the video frame for each press?

moyekj

Discussion Starter · #5 · Oct 17, 2007

I updated the bug list to be S3/THD specific only since TivoPony indicated 9.2 is only going out to S3/THD units.

1283

· #6 · Oct 17, 2007

moyekj said:
For now I will assume everything as NOT FIXED to start with.

I think "unknown" is better than "not fixed". When I saw "not fixed" before reading the quoted sentence, my heart almost stopped.

bevansmd

· #7 · Oct 17, 2007

I have not had any audio drop out since I received the update. I'm keeping my fingers crossed?

sinanju

· #8 · Oct 17, 2007

moyekj said:
Thanks for the update, the 30 sec skip fix alone is huge! Did you test it on HD playback (for S3 and/or THD units)? i.e. With 9.1 if I hit the 30 sec skip several times per second during HD playback it will just show the 1st and last video frame. In 9.2 is that still the case or does it update the video frame for each press?

I see a frame for each press at the rate of about three or four presses per second. Faster than that, the frames don't keep up -- pressing as fast as I can I see a frame for every five presses or so -- but the progress bar keeps up and I land where I would expect.

Short answer: It's back to where it was before 9.1

hummingbird_206

· #9 · Oct 17, 2007

sinanju said:
I see a frame for each press at the rate of about three or four presses per second. Faster than that, the frames don't keep up -- pressing as fast as I can I see a frame for every five presses or so -- but the progress bar keeps up and I land where I would expect.

Short answer: It's back to where it was before 9.1

I want it now!!!!

Dang, why isn't there a priority sign up for the fix???? I know, be careful what you ask for.....

moyekj

Discussion Starter · #10 · Oct 17, 2007

sinanju said:
I see a frame for each press at the rate of about three or four presses per second. Faster than that, the frames don't keep up -- pressing as fast as I can I see a frame for every five presses or so -- but the progress bar keeps up and I land where I would expect.

Short answer: It's back to where it was before 9.1

There is another poster here saying he didn't notice any change in behavior compared to 9.1:
http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5604814&&#post5604814
Even in 9.1 there was a poll on this and only about 25% of respondents say they had a problem, so it seems to affect different people in different ways. So I guess I'll have to leave that issue as undecided at this point until we get more feedback.

tivoknucklehead

· #11 · Oct 17, 2007

you might want to add the large menu font size that arrived with 9.1 that makes it impossible to read 4 digit channels

sinanju

· #12 · Oct 17, 2007

moyekj said:
Even in 9.1 there was a poll on this and only about 25% of respondents say they had a problem, so it seems to affect different people in different ways. So I guess I'll have to leave that issue as undecided at this point until we get more feedback.

Well, I did have a clunky 30-second skip previously and now it behaves as I've documented. Perhaps it's a hardware difference. Mine's an S3... perhaps the other is an HD?

dig_duggler

· #13 · Oct 17, 2007

Can you add the 2nd cablecard non-functioning bug (and it's known status)? Perhaps I'm just blind, but I don't see it.

188

· #14 · Oct 17, 2007

I second that. I would like to know if the second cable card/tuner issue is resolved.

moyekj

Discussion Starter · #15 · Oct 17, 2007

sinanju said:
Well, I did have a clunky 30-second skip previously and now it behaves as I've documented. Perhaps it's a hardware difference. Mine's an S3... perhaps the other is an HD?

I changed status to IMPROVED for now pending further feedback. Strange how it seems to affect different people in different ways.

mportuesi

· #16 · Oct 17, 2007

Following up on my comments from a different thread...

Thank you moyekj, for compiling this list and keeping it up to date. You are doing a much-appreciated task for the community.

OC7

· #17 · Oct 18, 2007

Sorry to say that 9.2 did NOT fix the 30 sec skip / instant replay bug on my S3. It still behaves the way it did on 9.1. Doing multiple presses causes the image to freeze until I stop pressing. The bug exists on HD recordings made before and after the 9.2 update.

The 9.2 update also introduced a strange intermittent bug on my machine. It seems similar to the S3 HDMI No Video bug that was reported during 9.1. Pressing certain buttons on the Tivo remote sometimes causes the video signal to be lost (a gray snow screen appears). This has happened when pressing Live TV from the menu, selecting Play to start watching a recorded program, changing a channel during live TV, and pressing the left arrow to go from live TV to the Tivo menu. When the video signal is lost, turning the TV off and back on will restore it. The cable signal is not being lost, just the video from the Tivo to the TV (when the problem happens during live TV, I can still hear the audio through the receiver - also, when the problem happens by pressing the left arrow to go from live TV to the Tivo menu, there's no cable signal involved - when I turn the TV off and back on, I see the Tivo menu).

The Tivo is connected to my TV through HDMI for the video. The Tivo is connected to my receiver with an optical cable for the audio. I tried restarting the Tivo, unplugging and plugging the TV, and unplugging and plugging the Tivo to fix the problem. None of those worked. I finally changed the video output on the Tivo from Native to 1080i Fixed and the problem appears to have gone away. I'm guessing that the video was being lost when the Tivo changed the resolution.

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.51000

· #18 · Oct 18, 2007

OC7 said:
The 9.2 update also introduced a strange intermittent bug on my machine. It seems similar to the S3 HDMI No Video bug that was reported during 9.1. Pressing certain buttons on the Tivo remote sometimes causes the video signal to be lost (a gray snow screen appears). This has happened when pressing Live TV from the menu, selecting Play to start watching a recorded program, changing a channel during live TV, and pressing the left arrow to go from live TV to the Tivo menu. When the video signal is lost, turning the TV off and back on will restore it. The cable signal is not being lost, just the video from the Tivo to the TV (when the problem happens during live TV, I can still hear the audio through the receiver - also, when the problem happens by pressing the left arrow to go from live TV to the Tivo menu, there's no cable signal involved - when I turn the TV off and back on, I see the Tivo menu).

The Tivo is connected to my TV through HDMI for the video. The Tivo is connected to my receiver with an optical cable for the audio. I tried restarting the Tivo, unplugging and plugging the TV, and unplugging and plugging the Tivo to fix the problem. None of those worked. I finally changed the video output on the Tivo from Native to 1080i Fixed and the problem appears to have gone away. I'm guessing that the video was being lost when the Tivo changed the resolution.

I have a similar problem that started when I got 9.1. When I go to the menu after watching either a recorded show or from live tv, my screen blanks out for about 2 seconds then comes back. Also when I FF and then pause or play, the screen also blanks out. Even when I navigate from the main menu to the now playing list, it blanks. I use 1080i fixed over HDMI and always have.. I have not received 9.2 yet, but looks like the problem has not been fixed.

bareyb

· #19 · Oct 18, 2007

OC7 said:
Sorry to say that 9.2 did NOT fix the 30 sec skip / instant replay bug on my S3. It still behaves the way it did on 9.1. Doing multiple presses causes the image to freeze until I stop pressing. The bug exists on HD recordings made before and after the 9.2 update.

Well that sucks. That makes two people now who it didn't work for. I had hoped the first report was a mistake or a troll. I guess I better prepare myself for the worst.

bkdtv

· #20 · Oct 18, 2007

bareyb said:
Well that sucks. That makes two people now who it didn't work for. I had hoped the first report was a mistake or a troll. I guess I better prepare myself for the worst.

It is quite clear from posts to this forum that 9.2 addresses a number of issues with 9.1. It may not address them all, but that doesn't mean Tivo isn't working on them. For all we know, they are working on the other issues as we speak.

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