[JaserLet]

Since 6.3 for HR10-250 does NOT have MRV... are there any alternatives other than MovieLoader? Is there a way, maybe some script, to "sync" two HR10-250s?

I ask because of my current situation. I have two hacked HR10-250s, I can manually download and upload recordings, but I would like this to be more automated so I wouldn't have to pull out the laptop just to watch something recorded on the other unit. Half the time, this manual transfer doesn't work anyway. And I have a really rough time trying to watch over-the-air local digital ATSC recordings I downloaded from the HR10-250s. (50% of the shows I record are local, via antenna).

My current "solution" involves duplicate season passes, but I always mange to forget to new season passes to both machines!

 

[Carlton Bale]

MovieLoader is your best and only choice for MRV on a HR10-250.

You could backup/restore season passes from one tivo to another to keep season passes in sync.

 

[BTUx9]

MovieLoader is your best and only choice for MRV on a HR10-250.

yes and no... it may be the only s/w currently out there, but there ARE other options that either haven't been written or haven't been released.

From what I know about how movieloader works, it shouldn't be too hard to modify it to trigger tivo-to-tivo mfs_ftp xfers (but since I don't have a box that supports HME, I could neither write that nor help somebody with it... sorry)

 

[Carlton Bale]

From what I know about how movieloader works, it shouldn't be too hard to modify it to trigger tivo-to-tivo mfs_ftp xfers (but since I don't have a box that supports HME, I could neither write that nor help somebody with it... sorry)

That's exactly what MovieLoader does, no modification required. Since the HR10-250 software has no trace of MRV code on it, the only way to simulate multi-room viewing is to enable HME by patching tivoapp, and use a HME application (MovieLoader) to initiate mfs_ftp transfers between two TiVos.

 

[BTUx9]

That's exactly what MovieLoader does, no modification required. Since the HR10-250 software has no trace of MRV code on it, the only way to simulate multi-room viewing is to enable HME by patching tivoapp, and use a HME application (MovieLoader) to initiate mfs_ftp transfers between two TiVos.

I was hoping the PC could be taken out of the loop (hosting the HME app on the tivo), but after looking into it further, it appears that most of the horsepower comes from the PC, making that somewhat unrealistic (unless someone reverse-engineers the protocol, so it could be written in a language that's less of a resource hog than java).

p.s. movieloader may be the only app that CURRENTLY simulates MRV for an HR10, but that hardly means it's the only way.

 

[JamieP]

... (unless someone reverse-engineers the protocol, so it could be written in a language that's less of a resource hog than java)....

I believe the HME wire protocol is open and documented, except possibly for some of the newer stuff, e.g. HD support on the S3.

Here's a perl implementation of the client side of the protocol, for example.

 

[tsanga]

I think I understand this right:

With Movieloader I can initiate transfers from my HR10-250 to my HDVR2 on the HME-enabled HR10-250, but there is nothing available that I can use to go the other way, i.e. use the HDVR2 to initiate transfer of programs that reside on the HR10-250 to the HDVR2?

 

[Da Goon]

...but there is nothing available that I can use to go the other way, i.e. use the HDVR2 to initiate transfer of programs that reside on the HR10-250 to the HDVR2?

You could upgrade the hdvr2 to 6.3 and then use Movie Loader in both directions.

 

[tsanga]

You could upgrade the hdvr2 to 6.3 and then use Movie Loader in both directions.

Slicer? That must be the only way?

I had no idea you could put 6.3 onto the SD DTivo.

 

[Carlton Bale]

You can't put 6.3 on a Series 2 SD DirecTiVo, but you can put 6.2 on it (or just let it upgrade to it on its own.) I think you can then install mfs_ftp on it and use MovieLoader through HME on the HDVR2, just like on the HR10-250. So basically, use MovieLoader on the HDVR2 to send to the HR10-250.

You can't put HD shows on to the HDVR2.

 

[Da Goon]

You can't put 6.3 on a Series 2 SD DirecTiVo, but you can put 6.2 on it (or just let it upgrade to it on its own.) I think you can then install mfs_ftp on it and use MovieLoader through HME on the HDVR2, just like on the HR10-250. So basically, use MovieLoader on the HDVR2 to send to the HR10-250.

You can't put HD shows on to the HDVR2.

You can put 6.3 on sd tivo's. I'm running it on one of mine right now. I upgraded manually using the info left by tivo4mevo on ddb. 6.2 doesn't have HME support so in order to use movieloader for xfers TO the hdvr2, you'd have to load some 6.3 flavor on it.

 

[tsanga]

6.2 doesn't have HME support so in order to use movieloader for xfers TO the hdvr2, you'd have to load some 6.3 flavor on it.

Could someone clarify this point for me?

I was under the impression that Movieloader can transfer shows to any IP running mfs_ftp. So I thought that with 6.2 running on the HDVR2, while I couldn't initiate a transfer from the HR10-250 (ala MRV), I could use Movieloader on the HR10-250 to push a show onto the HDVR2.

Do I have that right? Or do I need HME active on the HDVR2 to receive the file transfer initiated from the HR10-250? Of course, once HME is working on HDVR2, I can just pull the file off the HR10-250.

 

[Da Goon]

You need HME to initiate the transfer. Therefor any tivo you want to transfer a recording TO via MovieLoader, will need to be running 6.3. It can go from but not to a 6.2x box.

 

[whitepelican]

You need HME to initiate the transfer. Therefor any tivo you want to transfer a recording TO via MovieLoader, will need to be running 6.3. It can go from but not to a 6.2x box.

That's not correct. You can definitely transfer a recording to a box running 6.2 via MovieLoader. But you need an HME enabled (6.3) box to run MovieLoader. In other words, if you are like me, with an HR10-250 and an SD DirecTivo, you can transfer recordings in either direction, but the transfers must be initiated via the HR10-250.

Or, alternatively, you could load 6.3 on the SD box, and use MovieLoader from either location.

 

[tsanga]

You can definitely transfer a recording to a box running 6.2 via MovieLoader. But you need an HME enabled (6.3) box to run MovieLoader. In other words, if you are like me, with an HR10-250 and an SD DirecTivo, you can transfer recordings in either direction, but the transfers must be initiated via the HR10-250.

That's kinda what I thought.

 

[tsanga]

So to view my collection of ripped DVDs on the HR10-250, I need to convert them to .ty, then run Movieloader. No other way?

 

[whitepelican]

So to view my collection of ripped DVDs on the HR10-250, I need to convert them to .ty, then run Movieloader. No other way?

There may be other ways. But that's by far the easiest way.

There are also some scripts floating around on DDB which will batch convert multiple files to .ty. You might want to check out either the MovieLoader or ffmpeg threads over there.

 

[tsanga]

Thanks. That's where I got the idea.

 

[BTUx9]

I have neither used movieloader, nor HME, nor done any programming in HMO, but shouldn't it be possible to write an HMO script that basically does what movieloader does (thus allowing a 6.2 machine to trigger xfers)?

 

[Carlton Bale]

I have neither used movieloader, nor HME, nor done any programming in HMO, but shouldn't it be possible to write an HMO script that basically does what movieloader does (thus allowing a 6.2 machine to trigger xfers)?

Are you suggesting to use the MRV feature in 6.2 to interact with a HME application (MovieLoader) and have that initiate a mfs_ftp transfer from remote HR10 to the local SD DirecTiVo?

Is this a correct summary of features:
SD Series 2 DirecTiVo: MRV can be enabled on hacked TiVo, no HME support
HD Series 2 DirecTiVo: HME can be enabled on hacked TiVo, no MRV support