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See here for details: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=97211
or here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=914047

21 new HD channels are live making 31 total not including any HD locals or RSNs you might get in your area.

About 40 more are expected according to press releases by the end of October including many RSNs.

And before you ask, to receive the new channels you need:
* MPEG4 receiver (H20/21 or HR20)
* 5 LNB dish
* BBand converters (or an SWM)
* Zinwell multiswitch if you require one

Have fun!
 

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hiker said:
Yeah good... but I wonder how much actual HD content is really there yet?
Uhhhhh, most of it? :confused: Even CNN is in full HD except when doing broadcasts from the Atlanta studios.

These are the same HD channels that Dish and cable have been adding or will add. Nothing new there. The channels themselves determine what is actually in HD on the channel (remember when ESPN HD was just a couple games a week in HD and SD the rest of the time?) So if the content you want isn't in HD then don't bother with it. Personally it will be nice to convert a dozen or so SD season passes like Dirty Jobs and Mythbusters to HD. :D
 

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Reading through the dbstalk threads on individual channels (dbstalk forum here), a lot of reports of upconverted AND stretched content. Are you saying that all content on CNN-HD is true HD?
 

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hiker said:
Reading through the dbstalk threads on individual channels (dbstalk forum here), a lot of reports of upconverted AND stretched content. Are you saying that all content on CNN-HD is true HD?
From what I read on AVS, any studio shows that come from New York on in HD but any from Atlanta will not be because it's not converted to HD yet. Obviously anything in the field would only be HD if they had HD camera's to cover the story.

Just like say NBC nightly news. Studio is in HD but not all the stories or in the field reports are in HD.
Or even ESPN still. Studio is in HD but not all programming is in HD.

Just like with SciFi channel goes HD next month. I highly doubt it will be HD 24x7. But you can bet all their "big shows" that most people watch will be in HD (like BSG and Stargate).

TNT-HD is SD upconverted when not showing HD.

There is nothing different about any of these channels over all the other HD channels that are out there over the past 6 years.
 

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There is nothing different about any of these channels over all the other HD channels that are out there over the past 6 years.
Only not everyone has the equipment already to view them, so the relative value vs upgrade could be an issue for some. For others it's a way to say "I don't even want what I can't get!"
 

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And that's the nail in the coffin for the HR10-250! ;)

It was nice while it lasted!

Man, the new stuff does look good. CNN-HD looks great now. much better PQ even when it's not HD!
 

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According to Satguys the PQ seems actually as good as FIOS. That is certainly amazing if true. I'm sure the boys at AVS will have some numbers soon in the coming days. I can't wait to get home and see for myself.
 

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I got my HR20 out of the box to try the new channels. I didn't think they looked much better but it may have been the content. Also, none of these channels override my dislike for the HR20. It went back in the box.

I will try again when they get the scifi channel out and hopefully USA.

ps. I only had to get the HR20 out of the box because the one in my son's room has already died after 5 weeks. Technician coming out in 3 days - maybe it knows I dont like it..........
 

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gio1269 said:
And that's the nail in the coffin for the HR10-250! ;)

It was nice while it lasted!...
Well, not quite yet and not for everybody. I was prepared for a pang of jealousy, being disenfranchised from the new content (by my own choice), but I can't remember the last time I could be bothered to watch anything on any single one of the new channels, so I don't think I'd be missing anything at all, even if more than about 15% of the content (heck, even if 100% of the content) were actually in HD.

I guess that pang will have to wait a month, but I'm not even sure it will happen then. I can easily count on the fingers of one hand the programs I watch on DTV that I don't already get in HD, and it doesn't seem that any of those would be HD for some time, regardless of whether they launch HD channels for them on DTV.
 

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coachO said:
...I will try again when they get the scifi channel out and hopefully USA.

ps. I only had to get the HR20 out of the box because the one in my son's room has already died after 5 weeks. Technician coming out in 3 days - maybe it knows I dont like it..........
I think you might be giving it waaaay too much credit. It's obviously not that smart.

Do you expect much HD content on USA and SCIFI? I might have continued with "The 4400" if it had been in HD.

Naaah, probably not. :)
 

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gio1269 said:
And that's the nail in the coffin for the HR10-250! ;)
I still love my HR10-250. I have 3 DVR's on my main 55" Living Room TV. I have the HR10-250 that I use to record all the SD Stuff and NBC HD since its the only local I can get waivered for. I have an S3 with Comcast that I use to record ABC HD, CBS HD, Fox HD, and CW HD programs. Then I have an HR20-700 that I am using for all the new HD channels and what doesn't fit on the first 2 boxes. Some nights I have all 6 tuners running at 8pm - 10pm.

-Joe
 
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