14.8c rolling out, what's new?

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Philmatic

Discussion Starter · Aug 11, 2011

According to two users (1, 2) in the 14.8b thread, they're seeing 14.8c on their boxes. I figured it would be best to start a new thread.

Was streaming added back? Do you guys notice anything else?

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smbaker

· #2 · Aug 12, 2011

One of mine showed up with 14.8c this morning. I'm pleased to report that the HDUI screens are now complete, the rebooting and lockups have stopped, and it now streams to everything including my old betamax VCR.

Actually no, I don't notice any difference. No new streaming options yet (although only one of the Premieres in my house has upgraded so far).

Tivo -- post some freakin' release notes, eh?

jdgarrido

· #3 · Aug 12, 2011

I also got it today, so far no difference.

Iluvatar

· #4 · Aug 12, 2011

I can't imagine that they would release streaming with out a notice or press release 6 months in advance especially on a small revision update. I think we can all agree that the streaming earlier was probably a mistaken release of an upcoming feature.

yoheidiho

· #5 · Aug 12, 2011

I'm still waitng for 14.8b.

scandia101

· #6 · Aug 13, 2011

yoheidiho said:
I'm still waitng for 14.8b.

What version do you have now?

crxssi

· #7 · Aug 13, 2011

Iluvatar said:
I can't imagine that they would release streaming with out a notice or press release 6 months in advance especially on a small revision update. .

I can't imagine they would release any new feature without bumping the rev to 14.9. I am guessing the letter revs are just small bugfixes (and sometimes rollbacks).

I am beginning to wonder if they will release any new meaningful feature/change ever at this point

deaofly

· #8 · Aug 13, 2011

Hey everyone, can anybody confirm that the HD menu lock UPS have stopped? I hate using the sd menu because, well because the HD menu just looks a lot better. Thanks for and help.

plazman30

· #9 · Aug 13, 2011

deaofly said:
Hey everyone, can anybody confirm that the HD menu lock UPS have stopped? I hate using the sd menu because, well because the HD menu just looks a lot better. Thanks for and help.

My HD menu doesn't lock up. Where are you seeing lockups?

And if you saw the new Insignia TVs with the HDUI, you can see some of the SDUI screens have been converted to HDUI. I'm going to guess those are being backported as we speak.

danjw1

· #10 · Aug 13, 2011

Some have said that the issue with the HD menus could be a networking issue. If you don't have the Tivo connected with 802.11 and not a wired connection, you may want to try wired to see if that resolves the problems. You may also want to check ping times and speed of your internet connection. Network latency can be an issue here.

c_tripps_2k

· #11 · Aug 13, 2011

smbaker said:
One of mine showed up with 14.8c this morning. I'm pleased to report that the HDUI screens are now complete, the rebooting and lockups have stopped, and it now streams to everything including my old betamax VCR.

Actually no, I don't notice any difference. No new streaming options yet (although only one of the Premieres in my house has upgraded so far).

Tivo -- post some freakin' release notes, eh?

For a minute there you gave me hope for my Betamax

KungFuCow

· #12 · Aug 13, 2011

Im sure it was something to fix or add to a revenue source for them. Thats all they ever add/fix/work on these days.

atmuscarella

· #13 · Aug 13, 2011

KungFuCow said:
Im sure it was something to fix or add to a revenue source for them. Thats all they ever add/fix/work on these days.

Any CEO of a publicly traded company who would allow his company to spend money that he/she didn't believe would ultimately benefit the companies bottom line should be fired and put in Jail for theft of Stock Holders assets. It is bad enough that so many CEOs are actually wrong when it comes to picking when/what spending or not spending money on will benefit the company, if they are actually doing it on purpose our whole system is going to fail. So I hope what you stated is true.

Now if you want to say that spending money on fixing or providing something you want will ultimately benefit TiVo's bottom line go for it. If TiVo's executives believe you are correct they will spend the money to fix or provide what you want, if they think you are wrong hopefully they will not.

Thanks,

aadam101

· #14 · Aug 13, 2011

crxssi said:
I am guessing the letter revs are just small bugfixes

That's crazy talk. Tivo wouldn't be caught dead fixing a bug!!

smbaker

· #15 · Aug 13, 2011

atmuscarella said:
Any CEO of a publicly traded company who would allow his company to spend money that he/she didn't believe would ultimately benefit the companies bottom line should be fired and put in Jail for theft of Stock Holders assets.

Increasing profit and providing a quality product are unfortunately not always compatible goals, especially at Tivo.

I don't doubt that whatever change they make is intended to improve the bottom line (it is a for-profit company, as a shareholder I'd be upset if they made decisions intended to reduce profit), but whether or not it provides us Premiere owners and tangible benefit remains to be seen. Probably not.

KungFuCow

· #16 · Aug 14, 2011

Amazing how the Tivo fanbois come out of the woodwork anytime you say anything about their precious Tivo.

crxssi

· #17 · Aug 14, 2011

aadam101 said:
That's crazy talk. Tivo wouldn't be caught dead fixing a bug!!

OK, I stand corrected. Here is my revision:

"I am guessing the letter revs are just small attempted bugfixes "

crxssi

· #18 · Aug 14, 2011

smbaker said:
Increasing profit and providing a quality product are unfortunately not always compatible goals, especially at Tivo.

I don't doubt that whatever change they make is intended to improve the bottom line (it is a for-profit company, as a shareholder I'd be upset if they made decisions intended to reduce profit), but whether or not it provides us Premiere owners and tangible benefit remains to be seen. Probably not.

The problem is short term vs. long term vision. If they continue to piss off existing customers by not ever fulfilling the overt promise of a "Revolutionary DVR" with the implied promise of something fast, stable, and featureful, then the future will be bleak.

Repeat business and word of mouth are EXTREMELY important in the long-term. Like many, I feel ripped off, and if this Premiere is never "fixed" up, then I won't be buying another TiVo (and I have bought almost every model offered). Already, I do not recommend it to anyone new... and a lot of people (friends, family, employees, etc) watch what I do when it comes to technology- the same way I watch what they do in areas they know better than I).

lessd

· #19 · Aug 14, 2011

crxssi said:
The problem is short term vs. long term vision. If they continue to piss off existing customers by not ever fulfilling the overt promise of a "Revolutionary DVR" with the implied promise of something fast, stable, and featureful, then the future will be bleak.

Repeat business and word of mouth are EXTREMELY important in the long-term. Like many, I feel ripped off, and if this Premiere is never "fixed" up, then I won't be buying another TiVo (and I have bought almost every model offered). Already, I do not recommend it to anyone new... and a lot of people (friends, family, employees, etc) watch what I do when it comes to technology- the same way I watch what they do in areas they know better than I).

I agree with everything you said BUT the cable card hassle factor is TiVo biggest problem for non tech type people, and TiVo can't fix that. I just fixed a TiVo that had a great amount of pixelation on all the channels, pulled the cable card and the TiVo worked great on the analog channels, problem "cable card" so i though, but i tried another drive and all worked great, turned out to be a strange Hard Drive problem, how would a normal consumer solve this kind of problem, after the cable co came out and changed cards and he still would have the same problem, than he might have to RMA the unit back to TiVo, big hassle, with a cable co DVR just one call and the DVR unit is replaced and the customer goes on with his life, hard for TiVo to compete with a non tech customer on what the best DVR to get as the cable co. wins hands down.

atmuscarella

· #20 · Aug 14, 2011

crxssi said:
Already, I do not recommend it to anyone new... and a lot of people (friends, family, employees, etc) watch what I do when it comes to technology- the same way I watch what they do in areas they know better than I).

I stopped recommending TiVo to people several years ago unless I new for sure the person was OTA only - before the Premiere was released. Primarily because of cable cards and that the HD units could not work with Satellite. Just too many chances I would end up either having to provide lots of free help or with egg on my face. The Average Joe wants an appliance that is easy, takes no effort and that a brain dead person can use. TiVo may or may not be that just depends on how stuff goes. Just look at the people who post that they have family members that can not figure out how to change inputs - and this isn't the only forum I have seen those type posts.

On a side note I did get the "c" update (never had "b") and decided to switch back to the HD menus to see how things are working. So far it seems the HD menus are less dependent on loading stuff from the TiVo servers than I remember and no issues with lockups etc yet. I still like the SD menus better so I will likely only run the HD menus for a few days just to see how they are working. The HD menus also seem faster than I remember but it has been awhile so who knows.

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