Xperi to merge with TiVo

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  1. Dec 20, 2019 #61 of 135
    Mikeguy

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    But the book is in its contents.
     
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    trip1eX

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    Yeah to me both are contractions. Ignorance is bliss ...the implication is the person won't listen to reason...thus why bother being wise.

    And proof is in the pudding. ...the implication is you have to eat it or taste it to know if it's any good.

    I think both still retain the meaning. They are just contracted.


    I guess if you read "proof is in the pudding" literally then perhaps I see how it wouldn't retain its meaning. But we all know it's a metaphor or expression or whatever you call it.
     
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    NorthAlabama

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    my vote for best catering name in atlanta is "proof of the pudding" - i'll never forget them. :)
     
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    chiguy50

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    No, the original meaning is lost in both misquotes.

    In the first case, the implication is that ignorance brings happiness. Gray's point was rather that it would serve no purpose other than to spoil the blithe joy of youth if the boys whom he observed at play were to have foreknowledge of the sorrows that life held in store for them. IOW, in this particular instance the knowledge in question would serve no good purpose.

    In the second case, what proof is to be found "in the pudding"? When I see or hear this bastardization I think of a Three Kings Cake containing a hidden prize. One loses the lesson that it is only by tasting of the pudding that one can judge its worth.

    Full Disclosure: I am a linguist and these quibbles are thus probably more irksome to me than to most people.
     
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    Phil T

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    My Nissan has a HD radio and I enjoy it when listening to full power FM stations. Recently they have added so many low power translator stations, many of them HD, that don't cover a large area. These stations are unreliable and HD drops out most of the time. There is one HD AM station (KLVZ) I like to listen to but it is low power also and drops out a lot. It is nice to listen to music on a AM station when it sounds like FM. I wish there were more on AM but the technology is wasted on news/talk and low power stations.
     
  6. Dec 20, 2019 #66 of 135
    trip1eX

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    IT might be the literal reading of it. But when I see it or hear it it is sarcasm usually if directed at self. Or an insult of sorts as in must be nice to not listen to reason if it is directed at someone else.

    But the longer version of ignore is bliss probably wouldn't have led me to the longer point you give now. ;) I'd have to read what just wrote about the boys at play. :)

    I don't see how proof is in the pudding has lost its meaning at all. ...unless you read it literally with no knowledge that it's a commonly used expression.

    btw, as a linguist shouldn't this all be considered normal to some degree? LIke gay doesn't mean happy any more at least not how people use it.
     
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    chiguy50

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    Firstly, there is a difference between the evolution of words (whether in meaning, usage, orthography, or pronunciation) and the misuse or misinterpretation of a maxim or quote. Just because a bastardization or corruption is in common parlance does not necessarily mean that it is properly understood or retains its original meaning.

    And secondly, as a linguist, I should point out that your first sentence above is ungrammatical.;) As written, the phrase "as a linguist" references the subject pronoun "this"; what you meant to write is "As a linguist, shouldn't you consider all this normal?"

    Of course, this is just another quibble and your meaning was clear. But it was nonetheless improper grammar.
     
  8. Dec 20, 2019 #68 of 135
    NashGuy

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    Per this article at Light Reading:

    Prior to today's deal, TiVo had set a deadline to split itself into two separately operated companies by April 2020. That general idea remains intact, as Xperi and TiVo plan eventually to separate those businesses further down the road, when the technologies and products of both TiVo and Xperi have been integrated.

    "The industrial logic behind separating the businesses still holds," Dave Shull, TiVo's CEO, said Thursday...
    So my take is that the the main point of synergy here is a larger patent/IP-focused business that will be named Xperi. And at some point they'll spin off a combined products business (to be named TiVo?). Although looking at Xperi's website, it doesn't look like they actually sell any consumer products but rather license their technology/features for incorporation into other companies' products. But then, when you think about it, that's the direction TiVo has been headed anyway, now that they're somewhat disengaged from hardware and use Arris (which recently merged with CommScope) as their hardware production partner.

    IDK, nothing would really surprise me at this point in terms of TiVo-branded consumer products on the market come 2021, after this merger has been implemented. Maybe they'll have 2 different model streaming devices, a headless ATSC 3.0 DVR, plus the TiVo Edge for Cable still on the market. Or maybe they'll have completely exited the retail consumer market. Who knows.
     
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    trip1eX

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    all my stuff is ungrammatical. you don't have to tell me.

    I'm just doing my part to morph the language into what it will be 50 years from now.


    I think my example of "gay doesn't really mean happy any more" shows that I realize things don't retain their original meaning. :)

    But I don't see how proof of pudding has changed meaning at all. ...unless you mean in a literal sense only.

    The ignorance is bliss expression I can see how it changed meaning somewhat I guess after you gave me further back story. But I don't think it is used literally like you seem to be implying. I think there is still some inference there (maybe depending on context) that reasoning is futile when ignorance is bliss. And i think it is also often used sarcastically.
     
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    ufo4sale

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    DANGER DANGER thread going way off topic. Don't make me site passages from the Bible and how there relevant in todays society.:cool:
     
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    trip1eX

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    Well Tivo has gotten away from making the hardware (forget if they do any of the design at all, ) but they still support it right? And still sell it and they stlll make the software and support and sell that. So a dump of the products business would be a dump of all of that.

    Xperi would just own the patents behind everything (that is patented) so they can collect license fees from Tivo and others.

    LIke you read, Xperi doesn't sell any products. I don't see why that wouldn't continue.
     
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    tenthplanet

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    Wouldn't the Ferungi 'Rules of Acquisition' be more relevant :D
     
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    johnfasc

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    And to think when i first got my tivo, all I wanted was a DVR to tape shows intelligently.....
     
  14. Dec 20, 2019 #74 of 135
    tenthplanet

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    All I wanted with my first one was something more reliable and longer lived than a VCR :)
     
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    morac

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    I needed a 25 hour VCR tape because I was going on vacation for a few weeks.

    These days I wouldn’t have bothered as you can now catch up on shows online or on demand.
     
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    BillyClyde

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    And considering the fact that a TiVo doesn’t use (video) tape at all, it appears you didn’t get want you wanted in that product either.
     
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    ufo4sale

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    Since MR Brain is a dying FAD just like TiVo. What I think is irrelevant. it's what the "people think" that matters most.:rolleyes:
     
  18. Dec 20, 2019 #78 of 135
    Mikeguy

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    I don't hold much faith in much of anything that Mr. Shull states. He's already demonstrated his eminent abilities at TiVo, for which he is being rewarded, at present, with the role of "strategic advisor."
     
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    mattack

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    Many people use they're, their, and there incorrectly. It doesn't mean they're using them correctly.
     
  20. Dec 20, 2019 #80 of 135
    Mikeguy

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    Nor does it establish that your "take" on the above expression is correct and that the shortened form is wrong. Indeed, and as distinct from their/there/they're, it makes total sense. ;)
     

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