Xfinity dropping linear HD channels?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Davelnlr_, Mar 18, 2020.

  1. Davelnlr_

    Davelnlr_ N5GGG

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    Seriously, buy her a ROKU. After going through 3 Bolts (on the 4th now) due to hard drive failure, she is better off with the Premier. I have mine on the shelf. Next time this Bolt quits, Im just moving the cablecard back to the Premier and throwing the bolt in the trash.

    Just out of curiosity, if I wanted to get a Xfinity X1 4K box, in addition to the cablecard, what is the charge? Im guessing Box rental plus a $12 outlet fee?
     
  2. WVZR1

    WVZR1 Active Member

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    You need to have a 'local' conversation w/Xfinity. If you're near a contract end you can maybe negotiate a new deal BUT regardless they're interested in keeping you so it could be less than you might expect. An XG1V4 and a mini @ 0ne display and a Roamio/Bolt at another works very well.
     
  3. Davelnlr_

    Davelnlr_ N5GGG

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    I still have a year on my Xfinity contract. After that, I am not sure what I will do. I really dislike that Xfinity converts everything to 720p. As far as I can tell, the only company left that doesnt bastardize the video quality is DirecTv, but WOW are they expensive now. Add to that the expense of having to use their modem/router instead of owning your own. I really wish someone would put up a satellite that was all 1080p and 4K, and no SD crap. Now I know how people with a Vette feel in a 55 MPH zone.
     
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  4. tommage1

    tommage1 Well-Known Member

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    Why not now? Can get used lifetime Bolts (usually white model), for under $300 at ebay, sometime close to $200. Used not a bad idea, at least tested, many "new" from Tivo have issues from what I read here. If drive has a lot of hours just replace it. Good to get the 4 tuner model as it can do cable or OTA, should maintain some value even if cable cards lose support completely (seems Comcast is accelerating that right now).
     
  5. WVZR1

    WVZR1 Active Member

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    The 55MPH 'ZONE' is just that a 'ZONE'!!! DirecTV ain't nothin' special for PQ either! I've a premium 64" 1080P Plasma and I have 'no issues' with Xfinity. Add an X1GV4 and be done - at least have the conversation. What is your primary display?
     
  6. Davelnlr_

    Davelnlr_ N5GGG

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    Vizio M65-E0 4K with Bolt 4K. I mean, the PQ isn't horrible, its just noticeably not crisp as I would like. I also have a Tivo Premier OTA box, and when watching NBC or CBS, the quality of 1080i compared to Xfinity 720p downconvert is noticable.
    As I understand it, all Xfinity streaming is also 720p, as are most of the other 'cord cutter' streaming cable services. I need to find a DISH demo, I know they reduce res too, but do not think its as bad a Xfinity.
     
  7. TKnight206

    TKnight206 Active Member

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    It sounds like sometime next month Afro, Cleo, Revolt, Aspire, BET Her, Unimas ALT, and Univision ALT will have HD IP channels. If you record on the 1000+ channels, it should stop working on the TiVo. Make sure to record the SD QAM channel in the lower channel numbers.

    If I'm not mistaken. I may be misinterpreting something. Check your latest bill.
     
  8. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Good thing there's only like 4 people that would care about those.
     
  9. southerndoc

    southerndoc TiVo Fanatic TCF Club

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    For now. This will affect all HD channels soon enough.
     
  10. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Folks have been saying that for years now. I agree btw, but Comcast moves slowly in this space.
     
  11. mntvjunkie

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    No need to move until you need to re-purpose the bandwidth.

    Comcast runs plants at 100% "allocation" for the bandwidth it has (600mhz-1ghz depending on market). So it makes sense that they are so far sticking to new channels when switching to IPTV, but as they start increasing internet bandwidth speeds that will move more channels to IPTV. Comcast knows, their future is mostly as an ISP. And the reality is, they can deliver the entire platform over IP (they actually already do this if you use X1 hardware). As old hardware "dies" and new packages are offered, they aren't offering the "old" hardware anymore and moving everyone to X1.
     
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  12. TKnight206

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    Moving those, who don't drop Comcast, to the X1, you mean. If that were to happen. I think it'd annoy so many people. Not just TiVo users, but those with the old legacy DVRs.
     
  13. mntvjunkie

    mntvjunkie Active Member

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    The only people it will annoy are cablecard users. Anyone still renting an old Comcast DVR would likely welcome the upgrade to X1, and it won’t cost them any extra (actually in most areas they are making the new IPTV packages CHEAPER by dropping box rental and DVR fees entirely). The old boxes can’t get On Demand anymore, and are probably due for replacement anyway.

    Some will cancel, that was likely regardless. But at this point, if anyone outside of a cable card user is annoyed, I would be surprised. The X1 platform is close in functionality to TiVo, and the cloud DVR features are pretty nice (to the point that the DVRs they are pushing now don’t even have hard drives in them).
     
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  14. schatham

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    They are upgrading cloud DVR from 60 hours to 150 hours.

    Comcast beefs up cloud DVR storage | Light Reading
     
  15. 172pilot

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    I just spent 90 minutes between chatting online and on the phone, just trying to increase my Internet speed, and they wont do it unless I give up my tivos and cable cards, and take their box. They tell me they dont support or offer "Legacy" cable cards anymore and they can't change my plan. I have a 6 tuner unit and 3 MINIs that are about to be useless I guess. She offered me all kinds of X1 and ROKU solutions, but I said "if I have to get rid of my tivo anyway, I'm going Satellite" figuring that might get them to give in, but no.. They REFUSED to change my plan at all if I didn't give up the cable cards. I didn't think this was legal (and even mentioned it) but ended up hanging up frustrated..

     
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  17. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

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    Another option is to try one of the retail stores in person. For some reason, the staff there seem to be more helpful / knowledgeable / powerful. There are stores in Riverdale and Jessup (both off U.S. 1), just to name the ones I've personally been to. I got upgraded to Gigabit at the Riverdale store when they wouldn't do it over the phone.
     
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  18. chiguy50

    chiguy50 Well-Known Member

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    You were given a crock of BS. I second the advice below and recommend that you give a more knowledgeable rep a chance to get you the service you need. Without knowing the specifics of your current plan or your location there's not much pertinent advice we can offer here other than to suggest that you try a face-to-face (or facemask-to-facemask:)) encounter.


     
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  19. PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

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    Agreed you should try again. I was able to get gigabit internet and still have my cable card and no Comcast boxes and a better deal than I had previously. Just have to keep trying.
     
  20. spiderpumpkin

    spiderpumpkin Say no to Hydra!

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    Just sign up online and then return, by UPS, the X1 box or boxes they send you and just keep your current setup. I've upgraded my plan several times over the last 2 years and always take the Xfinity equipment, return equipment and keep my cable cards.
     
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