World Series of Poker - No Spoilers

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by LifeIsABeach, Jul 18, 2007.

  1. LifeIsABeach

    LifeIsABeach Active Member

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    Don't know if this belongs here, in the Season Pass forum or in the General Chit Chat forum.

    Warning: If you happen to watch poker do not go to msnbc.com (or perhaps any other news outlet today). The tournament ended this morning and I had it spoiled for me when I went to msnbc.com. They have the winner's name on their front page.
     
  2. stujac

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    Were you going to wait until it aired? That's quite a while from now. I checked as soon as I got up and it was still 2 handed. When I got to work the winner was announced. Smaller turnout this year. Last year, everybody at the final table made at least a million; this year you had to finish 5th to get over a million.

    That's not spoiling, is it??
     
  3. pjenkins

    pjenkins God bless Texas :)

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    lol at trying to non-spoiler the WSOP ME champion before it airs weeks from now...

    i watched the final table live, some really bad, really slow poker with no concept of deep stack play at all. and what's with the constant god references and photo kissing, man, what over the top theatrics...

    they should have a 15 second decision clock with a 60 second time bank, just like online :)
     
  4. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Grey Warden Reject

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    An aquaintance of mine is playing this year. I played with him and a few others in a cash game last year and came in first. This was my first cash game playing with people who play in cash games all the time. I wish him luck, of course. He has a good chance of making it for at least a few rounds.
     
  5. stujac

    stujac Member

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    I don't know-15 seconds is a very short time to make a decision that could be worth millions. I favor a 2 minute time limit but only when a player in the hand calls for it. Not sure if you've played tournaments but 15 seconds..jeez-I'm just figuring the pot odds at 15 seconds. I need more to study his chip count and mine, position, outs, etc.
     
  6. JPinAZ

    JPinAZ Dead money

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    That's mainly because they changed the payout structure. They basically took a chunk out of the 1-4 payouts & spread it over the 5-600 (or whatever place the money started). Here's a short blog entry showing what some of the 2006 numbers would have been with the 2007 structure.

    http://www.gambling-weblog.com/50226711/wsop_flattens_payout_structure_for_all_events.php

    Don't worry, no spoilers.
     
  7. jeff125va

    jeff125va New Member

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    I think it was the final table plus 1 or 2 more millionaires last year. Part of the reason for that was also a flatter payout. They started at $20,320 this year, compared to $10,616 last year, for the first players in the money. So even with the same number of players, there would have been less money for the champion and the rest of the final table. (my numbers might be off slightly.)
     
  8. pjenkins

    pjenkins God bless Texas :)

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    i was kinda joking, 15 seconds live isn't long enough obviously. however, the minutes upon minutes to make simple decisions, especially pre-flop, needs to be limited to keep the game flowing. i think after 4 hours with <6 left they said they had played 100 hands. 25 hands/hour with <6 players is redonkulously long...
     
  9. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    I don't think that's overly long. It's just over 2 minutes per hand. If you figure that maybe 8 of those hands were played to the flop and took closer to 4 minutes each, that leaves only 28 minutes for the remaining 17 hands, which is less than 2 minutes each. Pretty reasonable if you ask me.
     
  10. pjenkins

    pjenkins God bless Texas :)

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    too used to playing online obviously, i need quick action :)

    watching live does make you appreciate poker on TV though, seeing someone take 2 minutes to make a pre-flop fold in the blinds when he is raised is nothing short of the most boring thing to watch ever... :)
     
  11. goblue97

    goblue97 Welcome Home, Jimmy!

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    live tv? on a TiVo forum? Just out of curiosity, can you TiVo it or does the PPV thing prevent that?
     
  12. pjenkins

    pjenkins God bless Texas :)

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    i was watching the free live internet feed last night...

    also, to me, it's very difficult to watch live poker any faster when replayed on the Tivo to me, you don't know when the important decisions are made and so do a lot of rewinding/fast fowarding and it takes away from the viewing. i'd rather Tivo the ESPN FT coverage and watch that w/out commercial than watching it live as I did last night (too bad they can't make that FT coverage the next night :))
     
  13. goblue97

    goblue97 Welcome Home, Jimmy!

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    I forgot the smiley. I just thought any mention of live TV deserved the obligatory comment about it.
     
  14. pjenkins

    pjenkins God bless Texas :)

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    oh, duh :)
     
  15. teknikel

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    I found it easy to fast forward through a lot of the useless talk (Johnny Chan Juice) and get to when someone first enters the pot.

    Made it go a lot faster.
     
  16. MitchO

    MitchO Blasphemer: Uses DVR

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    I don't understand what's so funny about trying to avoid info until it's aired. This will be the third year now that I've done that.

    I know to avoid ESPN.com for two days and all news sites for today. I found out some non ME or the occasional who didn't win type info, but for the most part, I've managed to succeed. It seems to me that it's a lot less interesting to watch it on TV if you know who wins.
     
  17. logic88

    logic88 Well-Known Member

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    So how do they parse out chips in the WSOP? I checked a chip count blog last night and noticed that the total amount in play was something like $127,000,000. With only 6358 entries, does this mean they gave 2X the buy-in?
     
  18. jsmeeker

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

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    It seems that is the case this year. All participants got 20K in chips instead of 10K. There was an aticle abotu this in USA Today and the ymentioned last year about how there were some issues that were attributed to rounding errors when they colored up to remove low valued chips after certain rounds.
     
  19. JETarpon

    JETarpon Well-Known Member

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    If they are attributing last year's problems to rounding errors, they are glossing over how bad the chip issues really were.

    http://www.pokernews.com/news/2006/9/two-million-questions-one.htm
    http://www.pokernews.com/news/2006/9/two-million-questions-two.htm
     
  20. mattack

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    You guys who want speed poker watched the Poker Dome on Fox Sports Net, right?
    (I thought it was just ok, though I saw the vast majority of them. I still have a bunch of WPTs that I haven't watched and actually have not recorded the last several weeks' because of disk space issues.)
     

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