Advertisements Well, that required purchasing a lifetime subscription or an all-in plan. The All-in is currently priced at $550 so your breakeven period is 22 years. Even the original lifetime pricing had a 10 year breakeven. The first remote I wanted was a Logitech 650 since somebody has already made everything work with that. My next one might be something different as I learn more. That $16 Nevo C2 is $45 on Amazon and is discontinued so not much of a difference. The 650 had lots of good reviews so is probably not a bad choice. If the refurbished ones were actually by the manufacturer, I'd probably go that way but I'm not so sure what Amazon means by certified refurbished in this case.