WMA Support for TiVo Desktop - Beta1

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by pzand, Jul 30, 2003.

  1. pzand

    pzand New Member

    53
    0
    Jul 27, 2003

    Advertisements

    yes, there's no reason why somebody couldn't do the exact same thing for SHN and FLAC. I just use neither format, so I'm not very motivated to work on it.

    You could, of course, make a large financial contribution to the "pzand wellness fund" to try and persuade me? :D
     
  2. Jul 1, 2004 #102 of 171
    PhillipsMikeR

    PhillipsMikeR New Member

    1
    0
    Jul 1, 2004
    I have XP Pro and it work great!!!! I have 1870 music files!!!
     
  3. Jul 1, 2004 #103 of 171
    Your User Name:

    Your User Name: New Member

    57
    0
    Nov 19, 2003
    Boulder,...
    How much would it take, pzand? I'm in for $10; anyone else want to pony up? ;)
     
  4. Jul 3, 2004 #104 of 171
    Your User Name:

    Your User Name: New Member

    57
    0
    Nov 19, 2003
    Boulder,...
    So does this not work with JavaHMO? I was able to play wma files with Tivo Desktop, but I just installed JavaHMO and now they files aren't recognized.
     
  5. Jul 4, 2004 #105 of 171
    pzand

    pzand New Member

    53
    0
    Jul 27, 2003

    Advertisements

    As far as I know, the two are unrelated. This is a plugin to Tivo Desktop and it actually relies on Tivo Desktop for most of it's operation. I highly doubt that the JavaHMO guys implemented the exact same architecture to support plugins.

    Peter
     
  6. Jul 6, 2004 #106 of 171
    mkdevo

    mkdevo New Member

    27
    0
    Feb 24, 2002
    count me in!
     
  7. Jul 6, 2004 #107 of 171
    pzand

    pzand New Member

    53
    0
    Jul 27, 2003
    So let me get this right...

    You've both gone out of your way to make sure that your music is archived losslessly, so that you may enjoy the highest quality possible. Now you want me to take this archive, recompress it into 128kbps MP3 on the fly using the fastest possible compression mode, and then stream it into a device that has an audio end stage comparable to your average $5 RadioShack sound card?

    :confused:

    That said, I'm confused about FLAC. From what I'm reading, you can combine a whole bunch of tracks into one single file and use cue tags to "index" the thing. Do people actually use that?

    Peter
     
  8. Jul 6, 2004 #108 of 171
    Your User Name:

    Your User Name: New Member

    57
    0
    Nov 19, 2003
    Boulder,...
    Well, I have gone out of my way to archive music losslessly, yes. Being able to quick access to those files through HMO would be nice, but that won't replace my CDs of that music when I want to really get down to listening. It really isn't a big deal to me if you decide not to take on this project. In fact, I really had no idea the audio was so poor on a Tivo. The few files I have in WMA format are highly compressed and do sound like crap. I always figured that better quality files would sound a whole lot better. Again, not as good as lossless, but it's nice to have options.

    I have no idea about the technical details of FLAC. I do know that it is a lossless compression form that is gaining in popularity. One of the things I like about it is that there is a plug-in for Nero Burning Rom that allows you to convert to WAV on the fly while you burn CDs. The plug-in is probably similar to your program for WMA. It is nice to be able to avoid the decompression step that is necessary for SHN.

    P.S. would compressing it to 256kbps MP3 on the fly make a big improvement/be possible?
     
  9. Aug 8, 2004 #109 of 171
    gordho

    gordho New Member

    6
    0
    Apr 24, 2004

    one reason for this would be to rip an entire cd that is a continuous mix (dj mix, opera, etc). you rip it as one file and create a cue sheet. that way when it goes to the next track it is truely seemless, just like listening to the cd. when you load the file up in a media player that supports cue sheets you see all the individual tracks in the play list.
     
  10. Oct 2, 2004 #110 of 171
    bbruck

    bbruck New Member

    2
    0
    Oct 2, 2004
    I'm using Windows Media Player 10. I downloaded the Windows Media Runtime as suggested in the first post (which may be the problem); Folders and wma files "publish" successfully but when I try and play them from the TV I get an unrecognized format error.
     
  11. M82A1A

    M82A1A Too drunk to post

    2,254
    0
    Jan 22, 2004
    Phoenix, AZ
    I too have WM10 and I was able to make the plug in work. When I was installing the Windows Media Runtime, I noticed it said that it was for WMP9, so I did not install it. The plug in worked, so try without the Runtime..
     
  12. jack_richins

    jack_richins New Member

    1
    0
    Oct 30, 2004
    The plugin works great if I'm logged in as an admin, but not as a limited user (which is what I normally run as). When I'm logged in as a limited user, from my TiVo is shows no playable files in the folder. But from an Admin account it works perfectly. Any ideas why? Any chance of fixing it?
     
  13. bbruck

    bbruck New Member

    2
    0
    Oct 2, 2004
    Humm - the first time I installed it as you suggested, Phil, it did seem to work - at least for one song (perhaps it was in the root? But now I see the list of folders, and in each the songs, and when I select a song I see the name but no other information. When I attempt to play it I get an error.

    I basically just dragged all the folders in My Music to the published area in publisher. Was that the correct thing to do v. going inside each folder and dragging the songs?

    Anyway - I'm hoping someone else has gotten this to work w/ Media Player 10. Takers?
     
  14. Nov 8, 2004 #114 of 171
    M82A1A

    M82A1A Too drunk to post

    2,254
    0
    Jan 22, 2004
    Phoenix, AZ
    Well, I published my music by putting the "My Music" folder in the publisher and have had no problems. I have noticed though, that if I leave my music PC on for a long time, I have to reset it to get TiVo to play music from it. After you had an error, did you try a restart?

    FYI, I have had no trouble playing WMAs from sub-directories.
     
  15. campybob

    campybob New Member

    1
    0
    Nov 10, 2004
    This is my first post so please be kind. I downloaded the WMA patch and installed per the instructions, not including the runtime. However, now I get the following error message when I try and restart Tivo Publisher or Tivo Server:
    "The string list does not allow duplicates"
    I have Windows XP and Windows Media Player 10. All the WMA files are stored in a separate directory on a separate drive (F drive)

    Any ideas?
     
  16. prjman

    prjman New Member

    1
    0
    Nov 21, 2004
    I couldn't tell from the earlier posts. Does the WMA Patch solve the problem with DMR?
    I haven't tried this yet, but it sounds awesome, especially if it can use purchased files!
     
  17. jhwpbm

    jhwpbm Member

    95
    9
    Feb 28, 2002
    Texas
    Installed all as instructed (except I downloaded the latest Microsoft Media runtime for Media Player 10 instead of your link, though I tried it first without runtime at all) and no go with TiVo Desktop 1.3. I get the "This folder does not contaqin any playable music.". Any ideas?
     
  18. elroyjetson

    elroyjetson New Member

    25
    0
    Dec 2, 2003
    Michigan
    I have a Windows Server 2003 home network. I added the WMA conversion files and it works fine.

    This is good news because I don't have to convert all my files now! Wooo hoo. Happy Geek!
     
  19. Dec 1, 2004 #119 of 171
    tades

    tades New Member

    1
    0
    Dec 1, 2004
    Downloaded and installed, works great for awhile then gives me a server error. Any thoughts? Thanks
     
  20. Dec 1, 2004 #120 of 171
    elroyjetson

    elroyjetson New Member

    25
    0
    Dec 2, 2003
    Michigan
    Were you replying to my post about Server 2003 specifically or a gneral error installed on a client OS?

    If Windows 2003 is your platform, I found that the TiVo beacon service was unstable on server. In fairness to the WMA fix, I have three servers and installed TiVo on my lowest-power, lowest-RAM server. I don't put beta software on my production boxes.

    So, I just put it on both my XP and my wife's XP boxes and it works fine. Give it a large cache - smaller caches tend to cause crashes.

    When you attempt to access WMAs on TiVo and get the server error, you will want to stop the server component (the little black tivo guy in your system tray) and then restart it. This has solved my server errors.

    My experience has been to refrain from a lot of inputs into the service. When I select music and let it run, life is good. When I select lots of different music, eventually the server component bails out and I have to restart it.

    It's still cool and I am sure there will be updates in the future.
     

Share This Page

spam firewall

Advertisements