Wishlist for Sports - Problems after guide update

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One Passes for Sports has the same problem as Wishlists ( in most cases they don't work properly).

 

It works for me. You need one OP for the races and a second for qualifying, but the qualifying OP must be set to "New & Repeats".

 

Yeah, they're giving different show ids even though its the same show so you need multiple OPs.

 

On my Tivo, the race on 8/28 has an OAD of 8/26. Both Practice on 8/26 and Qualifying on 8/27 did not have an OAD. Only the race on 8/28 was scheduled to record.

On another note:
The Indy race tonight was scheduled to record, but only for one hour, 9:30 - 10:30 EDT. Indy lists the race as starting at 9:15 through 11:00. I modified the scheduled recording to record from 9:00 - 12:00 to make sure I caught the whole race, the Tivo responded to my request by rebooting.

 

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lol.

 

No tips, alas, but same experience / issue. It appears that Rovi doesn't accurately / adequately tag things with as much metadata.... for example, creating a Wishlist search for a category of "Movies > Action Adventure" or trying to find anything by a specific year as a keyword fails with "There are no shows matching this WishList in the next two weeks" even though that same Wishlist has worked flawlessly for years with the prior guide data.

QA? What's QA? Oh, right, that's the thing we make our customers do.

 

That's exactly the issue. The TiVo relies on A. having the metadata, B. having it accurate. With out either... We are seeing the results.

 

OnePass for a lot of sports is completely useless right now. The metadata is not collected properly in grouping. So, if I browse sports-Soccer, it will show 9 Bundesliga Soccer listings, each one being a seperate game (and ONLY that game). Therefore, a OnePass using that will fail to record everything BUT that single game. I've had to set up Manual Recording, which defeats the purpose of having a OnePass.

 

Anybody found a suitable solution for this yet? My Mets and Tigers Wishlists are so borked. It's really the only major issue I've had since the changeover. I'm with FiOS in NJ and ALL baseball games are listed as MLB Baseball in the guide.

 

According to TiVo there is no problem. We are just going to have to manually record sports it seems.

 

I wonder if we just keep opening cases until they take this seriously. Like others said in this thread (and the one in the Help Forum), this essentially ruins the functionality for Sports (or fills our drives full of repeated sports events).

 

I don't watch sports, but having Tivo record every airing of a cable news show is beyond annoying.

 

Not as bad as my wishlist for the Atlanta Braves recording 25 games in the next 10 days. That's 60 hours of useless recordings (the repeats) in 10 days.

 

It's much worse than this and goes beyond the Wishlist problem for me. They have the channel assignment and guide data for an incorrect regional sports network assigned to the actual regional sports I receive. I never previously had any problems with the guide or wishlist that picked up baseball games on this channel. Now it looks like I'll have to manually record every baseball game for the rest of the season and they'll all have incorrect program title/information.

 

So my "NFL Football" wishlist is like this:
Name = "NFL Football"
Title Keywords = (Night Football) (NFL Football)

Recording options = New & Repeats
Category = Sports:Sports Event

Upcoming shows:

9/8 5:30pm Panthers at Broncos (Will record)
9/11 10:00am Chargers at Chiefs (Will record)
9/11 10:00am Teams TBA (Will record)
9/11 1:00pm Teams TBA (Won't record)
9/11 5:20pm Patriots at Cardinals (Will record)
9/12 3:55pm Steelers at Redskins (Will record)

No matter what I tried, the 9/11 1:00pm one above would not change to be recorded. Finally, prompted by a post I saw in another Rovi thread I changed Recording options to "Everything" instead of "New & Repeats" and now finally the 1:00pm recording is set to record.

Not sure I can explain that one? I though only difference between Everything and New & Repeats was that Everything would record duplicates. So only explanation I have is that somehow TiVo thinks the 1:00pm one is a duplicate of one of the others?

Other possible explanation is I have 60 minute end padding, so the 10:00am recording on same channel would end at 2:00pm (i.e. 1 hour overlap on same channel with 1:00pm showing). So if that's the reason it wasn't going to record then that's a pretty serious TiVo bug.

 

My guess would be that it thinks the two "Teams TBA" games are the same show because Rovi hasn't assigned unique program IDs to them.

 

Yes, recordingId is identical for both, so that's probably it.

 

Yes, this is typical Rovi.

As another example of this currently in the guide, the A&E show "60 Days In" has a new 15 minute "Insider" episode before each weeks new 60 minute episode. Every week this "Insider" episode is considered a repeat of the same episode so it is never set to record even though it is marked as NEW.

As a WMC user, I am used to this, and in my experience this type of problem often gets fixed about 2 or 3 weeks after it starts happening, but then at some point after it has been working for a while it will break again randomly. In my experience, there is very little quality control at Rovi and they are not at all proactive.

For most of the stuff I record, things usually work (I don't record sports, usually). But because of the data inconsistency, I have to keep an eagle eye on my upcoming recordings and compare to zap2it on a daily basis to make sure all is good.

 

FYI, after guide update today "Teams TBA" changed to actual team names and now recordingId is different for each and "New & Repeats" now catches everything again.

 

I found that I could change that ARWL (same as yours) to new only and now it works because all games have OAD. If you set it to Everything like I tried to do, you also get the NFL Network reruns of the night games.

This is of course dependent on Rovi/Tivo supplying valid OAD for all NFL games going forward, which is perhaps a big IF.