Wireless Bridges

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by The Bear, Sep 20, 2006.

  1. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    No idea. This is a "new thing" to me so I'm still learning; or at least trying to :)
     
  2. cwaring

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    Well, seeing as I can't get the bridge to work I think I'll try the Homeplug idea.

    I was going to get the Netgear versions but then a thought occured. (Yeah, I know... uh-oh! :D)

    The Solwise ones are cheaper and I don't really need faster than 14Mbps just for my Tivo do I?
     
  3. Milhouse

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    14Mbps would be a mistake in my opinion - you'll do well to get just over two-thirds that throughput in reality and you may find 930KBs/s a little limitting if you plan to add additional media devices in future.

    From experience, Devolo 85Mbp are very good - I obtained a real world 55Mbp/s with security enabled.
     
  4. cwaring

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    Well I don't plan on doing adding any other media devices but I suppose you never know :)

    The only reason I mention Netgear is because I know and trust them. PLus I have one of their routers so it should work okay.

    Then again, I said that about the other thing :(
     
  5. cwaring

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    Hang on!!! 2 Netgear Homeplugs = £105? Scrap that idea then! I only paid £40 for this Print Server/Bridge thing. I'll manage with a long cable :(
     
  6. Pete77

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    My 10 metre network cable from Ebuyer cost £1.20 I think. Never had any trouble with it but then I don't have a wife. ;)

    But what do you plan to do with the Print Server/Bridge thingie?
     
  7. cwaring

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    Yep. Mine has served me well for a few years but I now live in a house rather than a flat and it's just a little short. Plus, the position of my PC and the Tivo don't really make it a viable option anymore. Hence the purchase of the WGPS606.

    Me neither. Don't have the money to support one of those.

    Well, now I know the price of the Homeplugs, I'd rather get it working if I could but I don't know what else to try with it. The setup wizard works fine when attached (by wire :() to my main PC but I have a second, older PC and a new-ish laptop (not mine; borrowed. I hasten to add!) and I can't get it working with either of those. It keeps complaining (IIRC) that a couple of things could be wrong. One is that the IP conflicts with one already in use, which it certainly doesn't. I can't remember the other but ISTR that it involved switching off my Routers firewall; which there's no WAY I'm doing :)
     
  8. Pete77

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    Is the issue perhaps to do with having enabled a security setting that only lets the wireless element of the router talk to items of equipment with certain known MAC IDs? And the ones you now want to connect to aren't in that list.

    I think you are being a bit paranoid over the security issue. Really you ought to disable all security and see if you can get these other pieces of equipment to talk to the router. Then if you can talk to it without security enabled you should gradually enable the other security elements till you find the one that causes the loss of connection.

    Also have you upgraded the firmware of the wireless print server thingey to the very latest version available?
     
  9. cwaring

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    Panic over! EBKAC :) (I'll let someone else point out what that means :eek: ) Tivo now wireless. Anyone need a 10m Ethernet Cable? ;)
     
  10. Foxy

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    Please enlighten us? I mean tell us what the problem was, not what EBKAC means :)
     
  11. cwaring

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    When I moved home, I started using a different password for various things, including the password for Wireless access and a 'general use' password. Unfortunately I used the latter for the former, which is why it didn't work. Correct password = working Bridge.

    Oh yeah... EBKAC = Error Between Keyboard And Chair :eek:
     
  12. OrangeDrink

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    Well it'd probably depend what you plan to do with your TiVo really, if you just want to access TivoWeb I'd say 14Mbps would be slow but useable, it's still a lot faster than dial up ;)

    but yeah if you're planning on downloading Video from TiVo to backup stuff on DVD? You probably want to go for the hard wired ethernet connection. Although for neatness the 200Mbps Netgear HomePlugs would be pretty good too.

    I've downloaded video with the 85Mbps ones and it was not fast but acceptable.
     
  13. Pete77

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    A Cachecard can't manage to serve up a Tivo program at more than 2Mbps anyway though so I don't think super fast adapters are crucial.

    Of course an ethernet cable costs almost nothing and achieves maximum possible speed. ;)
     
  14. cwaring

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    Having now got the thing working (UIAI* error) I find that I'm only getting about 60% signal strength anyway, which is very surprising given that I live in a rather small house :(

    *UIAI = User Is An Idiot :eek:
     
  15. Pete77

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    I get 100% signal strength around 10 metres away from my Netgear DG834G ADSL wireless modem router. Get much more disappointing results with an 811G Linksys ADSL modem router that I was testing for a relative and is going to be RMA'ed.

    Would suggest you also go the RMA route if you can stand it as the odd rogue unit just seems to output a dismal signal with this WIFI stuff. Have you tried all possible channels though? 13 is often a good one to try despite the apparently unlucky number.
     
  16. cwaring

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    As it's working okay, I don't think I'll bother. It's only a re-furb off Ebay anyway.

    Also, wrt the channel it's on, the status screen tells me it's on Ch11 at the moment. It also says "Channel - The channel currently in use. This is determined by the Access Point, not by this device" so I have no idea (and can't see) how to change it!
     
  17. Pete77

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    Yes it will try to sync with whatever wireless channel your ADSL modem router uses in the same way that a wireless card in a PC does come to think of it. You have to change the wireless channel used on the ADSL modem router if you want the print server to also try using a different channel with possibly less local interference.

    Of course an Ebay refurb may be a unit returned by a customer due to poor signal issues in the first place.
     
  18. aerialplug

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    Good to see you got it working in the end. What was the problem? I managed to get one of these working but I don't know exactly what it was that I did for it to finally work. I was linking a Netgear wireles router to it and found the installation software next to useless as it was hell bent in getting a printer working on the printserver and nothing else! ;)

    Still, now that it's working it's seemless and fast. For years I used a 10m ethernet cable but I moved house last year. The new living room / study configuration meant that the cable woult be far too intrusive and impractical.

    I find occasionally the signal strength to be a problem - I suspect this is because I've put the 606 behind a metal pillar on the TV stand to shield the incredibly bright blue flashing light but for daily dialups (what it's used for most of the time) it seems happy.
     
  19. cwaring

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    You seem to be in exactly the same position as me, ap. I too use a 10m cable but moved house and the cable is now impractical; hence the bridge.

    The problem was that I had simply entered the wrong wireless access password.

    Basically I set up the Print Server, using the install wizard (but not connecting a printer, of course) and the unit then just allowed wireless net access. If I hadn't screwed-up the password thing it'd've worked from the start :(

    Pete77. Tried 13 and signal level was less than 50%. Ch 1 gives 71% to that will do nicely! Thanks for the tip. :D
     
  20. Pete77

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    Ch1 no use here as that's what my video sender from my tv mainly uses.
     

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