Wireless Bridges

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by The Bear, Sep 20, 2006.

  1. iankb

    iankb New Member

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    Once set up, the wireless bridge should be transparent; everything will appear to be on the same subnet as your router. The bridge will need its own IP address (which will allow it to be configured using an internal webserver), but should otherwise be invisible.
     
  2. The Bear

    The Bear New Member

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    Yeah, when my router 'talks' to my Tivo it goes directly to the Tivo's IP address not the bridge's.
     
  3. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    Thanks to the advice in this thread, I'm going to be buying a WGPS606 very soon. See, I can search before asking questions :D

    I do have one question, though, about setting it up. I assume that that is done on a PC (i.e. my Tivo's IP is 192.168.0.200 so I connect this thing to my router and set it up to use .150 or something) then just plug it into my Tivo's Ethernet lead?
     
  4. TCM2007

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    It should get its own IP address automatically, either by mirroring the TiVios or getting its own directly from the DHCP erver in the router.
     
  5. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    So just plug it in an see what happens? :p
     
  6. TCM2007

    TCM2007 New Member

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    Always a good place to start!
     
  7. aerialplug

    aerialplug Serious TiVo User

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    I use a WGPS606 - and it works a treat. It's only slightly slower than a raw cable connection in my experience.
     
  8. dponsford

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    Before you take the plunge and use a wireless bridge have you considered using home plugs?

    The simplest networking devices I have ever come across to set up and use.

    I picked up a pair of 85Mbps for around the same price as a wireless bridge and IMHO they are more versatile and certainly more discreet than having yet another wireless device in the house.

    I use mine in conjunction with a DG834GT .
     
  9. iankb

    iankb New Member

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    I've just switched to HomePlugs, but they do seem to introduce audio clicks on my video sender.
     
  10. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    I did. It didn't work :( Am out all day today but will be working on it tomorrow so any tips appreciated :D

    [Addendum]

    Back earlier than I thought.

    So, do I need to set the thing up on a PC (with the correct IP) first or what?
     
  11. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    Well, that didn't work :(

    I used a second PC to set up the WGPS606 with the IP I have assigned to my Tivo then plugged it into the Tivo. However, it's not visible on the network. I could not see any other options (ie to use a specific port) so I'd appreciate it if someone who has already set one of these up could give me some help. Thanks.

    Edit: More Info..
    With the WGPS606 attached to the Tivo I can ping the Print Server on the assigned IP (192.168.0.200) but can't Telnet in or acces TivoWeb; by adding the correct port number.

    Also, it only shows up as an 'attached device' on my router (Netgear WRG614) sporadically. I suppose that could be a signal issue though.

    It's probably an easy fix but I don't know what it is!
     
  12. OrangeDrink

    OrangeDrink New Member

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    I used Devolo 85Mbps HomePlug's to connect TiVo to my parent's network. You know the ones where you run an ethernet cable to something that plugs into the ring main? Works damn well, especially cool as where TiVo's located in my parents house the wireless reception is spotty at best. Netgear have recently brought out some 200Mbps versions of them as well. Without having an ethernet cable running the length of your house would that be the fastest connection you could currently get?
     
  13. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    I can't believe that with all the people in this thread that has one of these no-one is willing to help me set it up :( Quite disappointing!
     
  14. yungee

    yungee Tivo Gods Worshipper

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    I'll see if I can help. I've got a WET-54G wireless bridge, so am familiar with wireless bridging in general but not your model.

    Not 100% sure from your recent comment, but it sounds like you may have the bridge set to the same IP address as your Tivo. You need to have them set with different IPs.

    Then the bridge should be transparent unless you actually connect to it's IP address.

    IE my setup:

    Wireless Router 192.168.0.1
    WET54G 192.168.0.10
    Tivo 192.168.0.50

    If I use a web browser to go to http://192.168.0.10 I get the admin config page for the bridge. If I go to http://192.168.0.50 I get TivoWeb

    Does that help at all?
     
  15. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    Thanks. It easy enough if you're using it as intended 'cos there's Wizards and stuff, but it wasn't intended to be used with a Tivo I don't think :)

    Yep. That was my first mistake. Re-ran the wizard and changed it now.

    Then the bridge should be transparent unless you actually connect to it's IP address.

    IE my setup:

    Same here

    I have the WRG614 and that's on ...erm... .1 I think

    Mine's on .200

    Not really. I can access my 614 and my Tivo easily enough (through a direct connection) but not through the bridge yet. It's setting up the bridge I'm having trouble with.

    Thanks though :)
     
  16. yungee

    yungee Tivo Gods Worshipper

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    OK... sorry if any of these are "teaching my grandmother to suck eggs", but this is what I'd try. Also a couple of the questions are to see exactly how much of it does work.

    Can you ping the 606 bridge wirelessly from your PC?
    Can you configure the 606 bridge wirelessly from your PC?
    Do you get a green (100mbps) link light when the Tivo is plugged into the 606?
    Do you have a printer attached to it? Can you print to the printer?

    Even though both my wireless router and bridge are linksys products, they wouldn't talk to each other with WPA encryprion, even though they should according to the manuals. So ...

    Briefly turn off any WEP / WPA encryption to verify it's not this getting in the way. (Look outside for men in dark glasses in vans before doing this ;) )

    If you have restrictions on MAC addresses connecting to your router, note that the bridge will have a wireless MAC and a wired MAC address, and your router will need to know the wireless MAC.
     
  17. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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    My only real problem (and the thing I don't 'get') is that I am, of course, not wanting to use the "printing" bit of the product, just the 'bridge' bit. That's what I don't know how to configure so it finds my Tivo on .200.
     
  18. yungee

    yungee Tivo Gods Worshipper

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    Having looked at the manual online earlier, it goes into great detail about setting up USB printers, and not much about anything else.

    They do seem to be rather big on guided setups though, sooo ....

    I'd be inclined to plug a PC (you mention you have a second PC) into the wired port you want to use the Tivo on, then run the automatic setup to "pretend" the PC is being set up as per the Tivo's network settings.

    That is, give it the address 192.168.0.200 etc.

    Then check connectivity works with the PC to PC via the wireless link.

    If that's OK, substitute the second PC for your Tivo and return the second PC to whatever it usually does, and hey presto! Or not.
     
  19. cwaring

    cwaring VM Tivo User

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  20. yungee

    yungee Tivo Gods Worshipper

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    I'm running out of ideas. :(

    I'm getting the feeling you're going to really need someone with a WGPS606 to help you. There must be something specific about that. Sorry, I thought I might be able to help as I've done a fair bit with general wireless networks.

    My wireless bridge has options for "infrastructure" and "ad-hoc" modes, and only work as a brige in "infrastructure" mode. Can't see anything about that in the manual for yours.

    About the only thing I can think of is that back in #31 "With the WGPS606 attached to the Tivo I can ping the Print Server on the assigned IP (192.168.0.200) but can't Telnet in or acces TivoWeb" did you not have the bridge and the Tivo both set to 192.168.0.200 at that time?
     

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