Windows 7 end of extended support

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Bigg, Jan 14, 2020.

  1. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    7,261
    754
    Oct 30, 2003
    Hartford-...
    Windows 8, and thus Windows Media Center, has just shy of 3 years left, and after that, TiVo will be the only fully functional CableCard system on the market.
     
  2. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Well-Known Member

    4,317
    579
    Jan 12, 2014
    Raleigh, NC
    Just because extended support has ended does not mean that Windows 7 and Windows Media Center can't continue to be used.

    And one would hope that Silicon Dust could figure out their CableCARD support issues at some point within the next 3 years.
     
    wizwor likes this.
  3. Sparky1234

    Sparky1234 Well-Known Member

    2,249
    330
    May 8, 2006
    Especially as WMC with limited internet connectivity.... no threat in a closed system.
     
    tarheelblue32 likes this.
  4. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    7,261
    754
    Oct 30, 2003
    Hartford-...
    If you want an insecure system, sure, you can run an obsolete version of Windows.

    I don't see the business model behind continued CableCard development. Between cord cutting, Comcast going IP, and it being a tiny market to begin with, I don't see a future for CableCard on PCs.
     
    cwerdna likes this.
  5. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Well-Known Member

    4,317
    579
    Jan 12, 2014
    Raleigh, NC
    If the computer is being used solely as a media server, I really don't see why it matters. After all, I highly doubt that my TiVo Roamio has a good anti-virus software built into it, and that doesn't seem to matter at all.
     
    wizwor likes this.
  6. ej42137

    ej42137 Well-Known Member

    3,620
    510
    Feb 15, 2014
    Los Angeles
    You don't have to run an obsolete version of Windows for it to be insecure; or at least that's what the NSA has told us recently.
     
    wizwor and mbernste like this.
  7. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    24,840
    7,866
    Jul 28, 2005
    wizwor, jlb and krkaufman like this.
  8. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    7,261
    754
    Oct 30, 2003
    Hartford-...
    You can't install arbitrary code and run it on a TiVo like you can on Windows. TiVo is not much of a security risk. These machines are on the internet, and thus on your network, so yes, there is some level of risk to running an out of date machine.

    Well, at least relatively secure. Microsoft has come a LONG way in reducing security risk, you're throwing that out the window if you're running something that can no longer get updates.
     
  9. joestan

    joestan New Member

    22
    1
    Dec 25, 2007
    Still a risk if it has access to your LAN
     
    Bigg likes this.
  10. dougtv

    dougtv Member

    35
    11
    May 20, 2015
    Any process that accepts incoming requests could eventually be compromised. If that compromise gains access to some form of a backend shell/prompt to install or run any code, then it can reach the LAN. But at the same time, that process exposed would have to be exposed on the customer's public WAN completely. Which would only be the case if the unit was on a DMZ or port forwarded improperly.

    The worst reality is more like:
    hacker: im in ur tiv0z, st33lin all ur sh0wz
     
    wizwor and PSU_Sudzi like this.
  11. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Well-Known Member

    4,317
    579
    Jan 12, 2014
    Raleigh, NC
    Seems like a pretty low risk to me. But to be on the safe side, I suppose I could always just connect it to my neighbor's open wifi network instead of my own. Problem solved.
     
    Bigg likes this.
  12. Bigg

    Bigg Cord Cutter

    7,261
    754
    Oct 30, 2003
    Hartford-...
    Then it wouldn't work correctly, as it wouldn't have access to you LAN.
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

    48,283
    4,793
    Apr 17, 2000
    Nevada
    We'll be lucky if CableCARDs are still a thing in 3 years for Comcast customers. And once that domino falls, the rest aren’t far behind. Not sure why SD would put a bunch of effort into CableCARD when they know it's on it's last leg.
     
    Bigg likes this.
  14. SNJpage1

    SNJpage1 Well-Known Member TCF Club

    4,367
    190
    May 25, 2006
    Atlantic...
    I don't see any reason not to upgrade to win 10. It has been out long enough to get most of the bugs out of it. Plus you can up date for under $6 by buying a license key off of e bay that are perfectly legal.
     
  15. humbb

    humbb Active Member

    413
    192
    Jan 27, 2014
    Northern CA
    Actually, you can still get the Win 10 upgrade for free from MS (which, I presume is even more perfectly legal).
     
    Mikeguy likes this.
  16. foghorn2

    foghorn2 Well-Known Member

    1,290
    304
    May 4, 2004
    Las Vegas
    Have SSD? have Win7 key, simple, get a fresh new install of 10 for free and legal! Make your PC new again!
     
  17. tim_m

    tim_m Active Member

    718
    155
    Mar 8, 2017
    I wouldn't touch those, even if they are legal .Who knows how many times the key might be sold and risk getting a key that no longer works.
     
    PSU_Sudzi likes this.
  18. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    24,840
    7,866
    Jul 28, 2005
    And there is no need to buy a (perhaps dubious) key, if you have Win7 or later which still generally can be updated for free to Win10 (see above).
     
  19. tim_m

    tim_m Active Member

    718
    155
    Mar 8, 2017
    Yep, Microsoft never actually turned it off because they want to get everyone on 10.
     
    tim1724 likes this.
  20. jlb

    jlb Go Pats!

    8,933
    256
    Dec 13, 2001
    Essex...
    I can confirm it worked about 5 months ago for me


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     

Share This Page