Will tivo work with 'Free' cable (no cable card)?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by hager4283, Sep 3, 2016.

  1. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    That sounds like what I said earlier and what commercial installs are doing in places like hotels and condos, right?
     
  2. Bigg

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    TiVo will WORK without a CableCard, but it can't line the guide data up.
     
  3. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Yes it will, if the virtual channel data matches the lineup submitted to gracenote, Rovi (or should I say TiVo now? ;) )etc.
     
  4. JoeKustra

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    Or if the physical channel numbers match the guide. This may be the way the OP finds the channels when he comes back. This is after his feed changes the physical numbers to match. This is getting crazy.
     
  5. Kingpcgeek

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    There is no such thing as a HD antenna. The HD is marketing BS. An antenna is an antenna. But yes you will need some type of antenna plugged in. what type will be determined by how far you are from the TV station transmitters.
     
  6. hager4283

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    (OP) Well after some shipping delays I have finally received the Roamio that I had purchased off of ebay. I'm ecstatic to report that I went through and got it all setup today and it's working perfectly without a cable card! After it went through the guided setup, it said cable card required on each channel. I then went to settings and selected delete all scanned channels, and then ran a new channel scan. It picked up all the channels and then I selected 'add' to add all of these. It's working great! The program guide is accurate and all channels match. I did some test recording and everything has worked fine.

    I want to sincerely thank you all for your help and guidance on this topic!
     
  7. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    Yep, awesome! :up:
     
  8. al_wilson2

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    I'm not sure about WOW, but TWC (in Northeast Ohio) includes local channels with internet subscription. In a circumstance like that, TiVo can be used for clear QAM with the local channels. This just eliminates the need for an antenna, and gives better reception than an indoor antenna. I don't use it, though, since I have a rooftop antenna that get's many more local stations.
     
  9. vtoski33

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    Yes, it should work with a cable card.
     
  10. vtoski33

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    Is there any way to buy a cable card outright instead of renting it? From Verizon for example.
     
  11. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    It won't work properly unless the Channels are mapped to their actual channel numbers and frequencies as was the case for the OP here.

    Exactly.

    From what I understand there's some small MSOs that allow and some require you to buy your own Cablecard, but the larger well known ones don't allow it.

    You can also buy them from eBay etc but it's extremely doubtful that your MSO will provision and authorize it for you. They can work well for systems that have clear qam and you want to map it to the correct channel in the guide for TiVo service purposes. Just make sure to get the right one for your system's headend, be it Arris/Motorola or SA/Cisco.
     
  12. lpwcomp

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    It's really surprising that TWC still has unencrypted channels.
     
  13. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    ........and analog channels here.
     
  14. atmuscarella

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    Same in the Rochester NY area, I have a friend that gets what ever TWC calls lifeline now, and she still does not need a STB, her old tube TV just gets analog channels and her newer HD TV get all the analogs and even more digital channels including all the locals in HD, both via a direct COAX connection.
     
  15. Jason001

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    Hi hager4283,
    Thanks for your post, I am on the same boat here, could you please share the model number of your Tivo Roamio? I found there are three different models. Tivo Roamio TCD846500 (TCD846510, TCD846000), Roamio Plus TCD848000, or the Roamio Pro TCD840300. Also, do you need to get one with lifetime Services?
    Thanks in advance for your reply,
     
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  16. JoeKustra

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    @hager4283 has not been here since 2016. TiVo model numbers: https://support.tivo.com/articles/FAQ/TiVo-Service-Number-and-Model-Number-Table#s3
    If you are going down this rabbit hole, you might start a new thread.

    As noted in post 1, does your television work with the cable connected to it directly?
     
  17. Jason001

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    Thanks JoeKustra, yes, I'm getting all channels (full channel number with no decimal point)from the original setup after I canceled my TV service with WOW but kept my internet. My main goal is to find a no monthly fee Tivo to replace Cisco Explorer 8642HDC that I returned. Thanks again for the link, looks like the correct choice is the Roamio TCD846500 right? Any guidance is greatly appreciated.
     
  18. JoeKustra

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    A basic Roamio would be fine (846500). You can always add a bigger drive.

    Are you 100% sure those channels are digital? If not, then a Roamio will not work.

    To tell, please post the call letters of the CBS network and the channel on your TV it is located. If your TV has an Info or Display button, what does it say about your CBS channel?
     
  19. Jason001

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    I am pretty sure it is digital, the cable come directly from the wall to TV and here are the two photo said DTV, please see attached photos I just took. My is a LG TV, So basically any Tivo as long as not OTA only will work without a cable card correct.
    Thanks again for all your guidance.
     
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  20. JoeKustra

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    Bottom line: TiVo has a 30-day return policy. There is no "OTA only" TiVo.

    Now, you know your zipcode and provider. Go to tvguide.com and use those values to see what they will show as your lineup. TiVo and tvguide.com use the same database.

    You have one more thing to live with: when doing the setup you will have to tell it "Install later" for the cable card. You may have to do a manual channel scan. That's when you will know if things are going to work. All this has been covered in this thread.
     

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