Will Tivo Stay In Business?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Joe2525, Dec 28, 2010.

  1. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    yeah, I have been trying not to harp on his age since he was not making that big a point of it either, but a lot of what we are seeing here, I agree, is a young kid trying to out tech the oldsters
     
  2. Bigg

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    You don't have to be young to be "geeky" or "techy". I know several people who are easily double my age, and way techier (I know, not a word).
     
  3. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    umm, yeah - I know. <looks in mirror> What does that have to do with the point I made in the post?
     
  4. wkearney99

    wkearney99 Bill Kearney

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    Perhaps he's yet to learn age and experience beats youth and exuberance, every time.
     
  5. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    That's true, but then that introduces the issue of changing inputs on your TV. Apparently that is an issue with many people and they prefer a solution that doesn't require changing inputs.

    I agree with you though. I don't mind changing inputs and I don't watch much live TV.
     
  6. Bigg

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    If anyone has that issue, how are they going to watch Blu-Rays? Or content off of a laptop?
     
  7. ewilts

    ewilts Who, me?

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    My TV has 1 HDMI input. My receiver has 2 HDMI inputs. So I connect my BluRay player and my TiVo to my receiver.

    Laptop connectivity to a TV is rare. Home media center PCs are also rare. Sure, people do it, but not as often you would think. I switch cables if I want to want to watch something off my PC. Maybe I'll buy an HDMI switcher from monoprice one day :).

    I would guess that there are not that many people that have requirements for more than 2 devices to a TV (DVR plus game system or DVD). Modern TVs I think typically have 3-4 HDMI inputs.
     
  8. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    They won't.
     
  9. Bigg

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    Current TV's have 4 HDMI, and current receivers have 3-6 HDMI's. That being said, I've seen HDTV's with one component port and no digital ports, so they cover a wide range depending on age.

    Laptops are a natural thing to hook up to a TV, that way you can web content onto the TV even if you're really cheap (like me) and don't have an HTPC. My TV has a dedicated VGA port that I use to connect my Macbook. Works great.
     
  10. tivogurl

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    My issue with an MCE box isn't the hardware, which is indeed much more powerful than a TiVo, but the software. As I understand it, the basic DVR functionality (season passes, wishlists, conflict resolution, proper handling of new vs repeat, etc) is either missing or broken compared to a TiVo. Cableco DVR users report similar problems with missed recordings. It's also clunkier and takes a lot longer to get anything accomplished in the MCE UI. Four tuners is great, if your cablecard can deliver 4 streams (aren't most 2?), but if I can't set and forget I'm not switching.
     
  11. ewilts

    ewilts Who, me?

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    Yup, starting with the fact that you're running Windows. That means regular patches and reboots, continual updating to the latest graphics drivers, etc. Overall, I found running my MCE system a royal pain in the butt compared to running a TiVo.
     
  12. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Incorrect, the only thing missing is advanced wishlists (boolean searches) - everything else is there and works in 7MC, with the occasional repeat show recorded as new being the only issue for me. The guide data is not as accurate as Tivo's, IMO, but it is free.

    All M-cards deliver up to 6 streams, it's in the spec. S-cards are not available now. But you might have to get a couple of tuning adapters to have 4 streams for some channels, on some cable systems (mine doesn't use TAs). And you'll have to shuck out $400 right now to get 4 streams with the Ceton tuner card.
     
  13. tivogurl

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    I've read numerous complaints that WMC will randomly skip new episodes of series recordings, even if the episode showed as scheduled to record the day before, to the point that you have to watch the system daily or miss episodes, and that WMC will lie about what happened (like claiming the episode wasn't recorded by user request). That's far from "set and forget" like I get with TiVo.
     
  14. Bigg

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    The only reason the Ceton card doesn't support 6 tuners is because of an arbitrary software limitation in MCE.

    We've had to babysit a lot of stuff on TiVo and our Comcast box. The fact of the matter is that guide data isn't always accurate, and channels will switch stuff up last minute. Guide data is usually perfect for network prime time stuff, but once you get into any show that's got repeats, it might work 95% if you're lucky, but that's no guarantee.
     
  15. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    I know of two shows I record that have repeats with generic info issues. Ironically - the correct use of a wishlist fixes it on the TiVo.
    The only problem the TiVo had is that it recorded some repeats along with the regular shows. Other than that I have maybe 4 instances over 5 years of shows that did not record on TiVo.

    so perhaps you could give some real data on how you need to babysit the TiVo
     
  16. Bigg

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    I've seen a lot more shows than that over the years have messed up SP's or whatnot. Guide data isn't perfect, and no DVR is ever going to be perfect. TiVo Premiere would be worse than the old S2 too since it has to deal with duplicate and triplicate stuff with only one in HD instead of just SD duplicates.
     

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