Will Roamio get SkipMode?

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    dvdvids

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    I'm couple of years away from 4K...plus I got the Roamio just last year or so ago and cannot afford Bolt (plus no offers for existing customers!)

    So, the my question is if Roamio gets SkipMode update?
     
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    mrizzo80

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    There's been conflicting information about this, but it sounds like the correct answer is NO.

    A TiVo dealer posted early this morning in one of the threads hinting it was coming to Roamio, a TiVo support webpage evidently said it was, and at least one of the tech site reviews said it was.

    I think the best we can hope for is no for now, but maybe they will add it to Roamio's after the initial sales spike on Bolts.
     
  3. Sep 30, 2015 #3 of 962
    scottfll954

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    typical corporate BS..

    keep your customers in the dark .. and Hope they buy new equipment

    and then eventually upgrade there old equipment ..


    Drives me crazy
     
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    usc-fan

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    They removes it from the support site. Looks unlikely.

    No way its a hardware issue. It just to push people to buy something new but it will likely just upset people and push them away from tivo. Terrible move. I still pay tivo monrhly and want new features.
     
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    Dan203

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    Maybe they will make it an add-on feature in the future. Monthly/yearly subscribers will get it for free but lifetime users will have to pay $1/month to get it. Unlike other TiVo features this one actually requires actual man power so there is a reoccurring cost to them.
     
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    tarheelblue32

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    I'm trying to think if I would be willing to actually pay for it. If it were $1/month, I might consider it. Anything more and I highly doubt I would. It would probably rub me the wrong way though, since monthly and annual service fees haven't increased.
     
  7. Sep 30, 2015 #7 of 962
    mrizzo80

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    I bet they can accomplish tagging commercials by using as few as 2 people.

    20 shows every 30 minutes need to be tagged, so that's 10 shows for each employee. That gives each person about 3 minutes to handle each 30 minute program.
     
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    Dan203

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    They could even partially automate it by marking the locations where the commercials are most likely located and having the human manually verify/adjust the positions as needed.
     
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    Grayswandir1

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    It seems to me that SkipMode is a function of the software and of the staff being paid to tag the commercials in realtime.

    Shouldn't this be a service that benefits everyone paying a monthly subscription? Shouldn't all subscribers (and owners of lifetime service) get this functionality since it would require no more additional work by Tivo to offer it as the information will already be in the database, just like guide data?

    Keeping it limited to only those who purchase a particular piece of hardware says to me that as a longtime subscriber to the Tivo monthly service with my Roamio and Minis (and Series 2's and 3's in the past) I'm less important to Tivo than someone who goes out and purchases a Bolt today.
     
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    usc-fan

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    Exactly how i feel. Then they drop the MSD also. :thumbsdown:
     
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    mjh

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    I honestly couldn't care less about the new software features of the bolt. But the fact that the OTT apps start up nearly instantly, that is intriguing.
     
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    tomhorsley

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    I have a feeling the more likely path for TiVo making money off this goes something like: "Nice commercial you got there, too bad if everyone should skip over it..."
     
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    snerd

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    The way things are going, I wouldn't put it past TiVo to rig the software to force everyone to watch TiVo commercials :eek:
     
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    windracer

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    SkipMode is powered by actual people watching the shows and tagging the commercials? :eek: Wow, I guess I figured it was a detection feature in the software like Ad-Detective in VideoReDo.
     
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    Dan203

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    Someone posted in another thread that the scope of the feature laid out by a judge in the Dish Network case said they essentially had to be completely accurate because if the feature skipped any of the actual content it was a violation. So they use people to verify that all the skip points are in the right spot just to be safe. We assume TiVo does the same thing. Although I don't think the actually watch the shows. I assume there is a prescan done by a computer, similar to ad detective and the humans just verify and adjust the positions of the markers.
     
  16. Oct 1, 2015 #16 of 962
    Chuck_IV

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    I kind of agree since they are already slinking down that road a bit now with the EXTREMELY annoying advertisements when you hit pause.
     
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    tarheelblue32

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    I honestly don't find those pause ads annoying at all.
     
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    Chris Gerhard

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    It is a nice feature but I don't expect it on the Roamio models, it was not promised and I don't feel any sense of entitlement to it since I bought without any expectation of getting it.
     
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    MikeekiM

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    I am good with anything that brings revenue into a company that I want to survive and thrive...without torpedoing the user experience that I paid for...

    And this definitely fits into that category for me... It doesn't bother me...it creates revenue for TiVo... It's all good from my perspective!
     
  20. Oct 1, 2015 #20 of 962
    jcthorne

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    Gee, sort of like using Videoredo....:up:
     

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