Will Moca work with a wireless network?

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by dnorth12, Oct 27, 2020.

  1. krkaufman

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    As a precaution against some unexpected MoCA and DOCSIS 3.1 conflict, you might get into your gateway's MoCA settings and configure the gateway's MoCA bridge to operate at a different frequency, at 1350 MHz or higher. (Though I'd think this *shouldn't* be necessary, on a gateway supporting MoCA bridging.)

    edit: p.s. More on MoCA and DOCSIS 3.1 issues, >here<. But, again, I'd hope the MoCA-capable gateway wouldn't be operating at a frequency that would cause itself a conflict.
     
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  2. krkaufman

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    One other note Re: your Internet/cable outage ... given that you have a fiber-to-the-home setup, you don't require the "PoE" MoCA filter for securing your network. The MoCA signals won't travel beyond the RFoG terminal.

    So... you could remove the "PoE" MoCA filter to see if doing so alters the status of your setup.
     
  3. dnorth12

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    I think one of my post’s didn’t go through when the TDS outage occurred.

    The moca is working. I went into the bedroom bolt did the steps in there and then everything connected.

    So you are saying since I am using moca I have to do a manual connection to get guide service? How will that work if the TiVos are not using WiFi any longer? Remember I don’t have an Ethernet connection or any ports to connect to.
     
  4. dnorth12

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    I am on cable not fiber.
     
  5. krkaufman

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    No, the manual service connection was just an example of something you could do to prove that the BOLT's network is functioning properly over the hard-wired MoCA connection. Streaming from the other BOLT, streaming from an Internet service are additional validation tests.

    (Streaming between BOLTs may not be entirely reliable until both BOLTs are hard-wired via MoCA.)

    The MoCA wired connection is the near-equivalent of your previous Ethernet connection; the BOLT will network over your coax, now, rather than Ethernet (as at your previous home) or Wi-Fi (as it did prior to getting the MoCA connection working).
     
  6. krkaufman

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    The RFoG terminal that you provided a snapshot of begs to differ. ;)

    SDU RFoG CPE.jpg

    RFoG (Radio Frequency Over Glass) is an alternate fiber solution, allowing backwards compatibility, in a sense; the fiber signal is converted to traditional coax (DOCSIS, QAM) for in-home use.

    See here: RFoG ONU (R-ONU) CPE | CommScope

    edit: p.s. Reading up on RFoG has me reverting to keeping the "PoE" MoCA filter in place (based on this article, until further research indicates otherwise).

     
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  7. krkaufman

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    Is your TDS service (cable and Internet) restored?

    Have you converted both BOLT DVRs to MoCA client connections?
     
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    Re: the ONU/ONT you found outside ... just be aware that the power block in the closet cabinet is remotely supplying power to the ONT, so don't unplug that power adapter ... unless you want your Internet and TV service to die. Further, you probably want to get the ONT's power adapter (and the gateway) plugged-in to a UPS, to avoid Internet/TV outages during any power blips.

    IMG_0310 - RFoG power inserter.jpg
     
  9. dnorth12

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    TDS outage is over with. Appears someone cut a cable in a town 40 miles away. Large area affected.

    And I am up and running. Both Bolts can communicate with each other. I can watch shows from one to the other. I can not transfer though. Not that that is that big of a deal. Been awhile and if I remember correctly that has to do with TiVo online. And TiVo online appears to be offline or stuck for the last couple days. Just a spinning icon. Never loads.

    I really want to thank you for your assistance. Made this an easy process.
     
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  10. krkaufman

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    What a bizarre, unfortunate coincidence.

    Great to hear, and you’re quite welcome. Gotta do what I can to keep the TiVo customer base from imploding. ;) And thank you for closing the thread off with the feedback that you’re operational; it doesn’t always happen.

    And, yeah, if on TE4, you’re more vulnerable to TiVo server issues. One of the many annoying design choices of TE4.


    Well, once you feel comfortable with the setup, keep the earlier post regarding piggybacking your networking off the BOLTs’ unused Ethernet ports in mind.

    And know that you can leverage your coax plant and MoCA to further extend networking to other rooms, as well, wherever you have a connected coax wall outlet and a wired Ethernet connection would be of benefit. Post back if you need more info on that front.
     
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