Wife asks where is Caller ID?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by bengaldave, Jul 26, 2009.

  1. steve614

    steve614 what ru lookin at?

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    I want to be able to answer the phone through my Tivo just like you could with those Zenith "space phone" TVs.






    :D:cool:
     
  2. AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    Odd... you probably still use DOS, too?
     
  3. AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

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    The two are completely different, with completely different requirements:

    Wired network = reliability, which is critical for digital data.

    Wireless phone = ease of use, which is critical for something as mobile as a phone, and that doesn't require any sort of digital reliability.


    If you are making the same conclusion for both, you're not not looking at the actual needs of either properly.
     
  4. JonathanMeyers

    JonathanMeyers New Member

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    People in this forum are really defensive concerning any TiVO criticism. I have two TiVO's and I enjoy them. There is definite room for improvement. CallerID, would be an improvement even though it is pretty much useless. Also, land lines are the most dependable form of telecommunications.
     
  5. rifleman69

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    If this was enabled on TiVo's, I'd still make fun of it. It's not a defender of TiVo thing for me.
     
  6. JWThiers

    JWThiers Smartypants

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    Not true. At least with the implementation that was used on hacked DTivo's. The tivo is recording the incoming stream, not what is going out to the tv. The callerID data is inserted into the display output like the close caption information IIRC it used the same commad to display the data that displayed CC information. I don't know if it recorded the data as if it were CC data.
     
  7. JWThiers

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    At least it is a somewhat useful feature. It beats reaching for the phone to see who is calling, its displayed right on the TV. And if the answering machine is in the other room or turned down or of or god forbid you don't have one because you think voicemail is a pain in the... IMO it's more useful than a free space available meter. But that is just flame bait on my part. Any feature you don't use has a tendency to be lame.
     
  8. aaronwt

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    It would be more annoying having it pop up. I remember with my first DirecTV HD STB in 2001. Having caller ID pop up, I really hated it. That is what an answering machine/voicemail is for. If it's important they will leave a message and I can call them back at my leisure.
     
  9. kb7oeb

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    I have the panasonic cordless phone with talking caller id and I love it. I had on screen caller id on dish and directv and I miss it on Tivo but the talking caller id works when the TV is off.

    Landlines are going away but mostly due to cost, I switched over to a VOIP solution that cost less than the telco charges just for caller id.
     
  10. c3

    c3 TiVoholic

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    Yes, two DOS programs almost everyday, the same programs since 1989-1992.
     
  11. JWThiers

    JWThiers Smartypants

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    I hacked my DTivo specifically to get MRV and callerID. That's why they sell Fords AND Chevy's. You might think a Space Available Indicator would be the end all and be all added feature, I find that totally worthless and would hardly ever if ever use it. I'm not hearing impaired so closed captions is kind of sille and I don't use it. I think CallerID would be the greatest. As long as you can toggle it on and off in settings who cares if a feature is available, it doesn't mean you have to use it.
     
  12. JWThiers

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    You've never had cell phone not be available for long periods have you? Land lines won't go away anytime soon. cell phone is still not available in large rural areas and what happens when a hurricane or earthquake knocks down a few cell phone towers and they won't be up again for 6 months? Oh but wait I forgot VOIP is still technically a land line unless you are using some kind of wireless solution. it just isn't POTS (Plain Old Telephone System) its digital data.
     
  13. aaronwt

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    That's what a Femtocell is for. I can barely get reception at my condo from the cell tower but with the Verizon Femtocell I get full signal strength.
    And in the rural areas they would still be using DSL which would be on the same lines as the phone. So it would be just as reliable as long as the Femotcell is on a UPS. Mine is covered for around 12 hours during an outage.
     
  14. ah30k

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    In your opinion.

    In my opinion, pausing the current show so that I can find the handset and look to see who is calling is annoying. I do not have the luxury of ignoring all incoming calls and waiting for the important ones to leave a message. I must pick up certain calls when they come in.
     
  15. yjr

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    Other than the suggestion to use 3rd party hacks, or to use a wireless phone to obtain the caller ID info...
    The short answer to your question is, This feature is not available when you are not using Cablevision's cable box(at least that's the way it was when I started using a Tivo HD with cable cards 2yrs ago). As a new user of a Tivo with cable cards you will find that there are more features/channels that are not available when you do not use Cablevision's box. Couple of channels I remember were Optimum Homes and Optimum cars(they may have been SDV) I learned to live without.
    I don't remember what else was not available(other than the SDV channels), I have since switched to Fios.
    HTH
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  16. DrewTivo

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    1) A cordless phone costs something.
    2) A cordless phone display is not visible from across the room.

    I too would prefer caller ID on my Tivo/TV, and was simply identifying an option that would display the caller prominently and could be located near the TV so it's always visible (whereas the cordless handset inevitably is in another room, in between the couch cushions, out of batteries, etc.)
     
  17. aaronwt

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    Then put the hand set next to you when watching TV. I have a handset near each TV.
     
  18. MikeAndrews

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    The Op is taking about having a cable set top box with cable VOPI service. The STB must be a one piece so VOIp phone is intergrated.

    Now consider that these days TiVo boxes don't need a phone line. You can use the preferred method of a home network connection. When you use a phone line for the TiVo it's trivial to get the Caller ID out, since the internal phone modem can grok it. If you don't the phone line connected, the TiVo doesn't know from the phone ringing.

    Soo... "Why can't the TiVo do it?" That's why.
     
  19. JWThiers

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    To quote someone

    But wait I'm sure that is what he does do since the On Screen CallerID isn't a feature

    Even using Femtocell you aren't getting rid of a "Land Line" (assuming you are using cable or DSL anyway) you just aren't using POTS anymore. It was the "land line" reference that I was really commenting on. It really isn't getting rid of a land line if you switch to voip you are just substituting a POTS land line for an IP land line (assuming cable or DSL for broadband internet)

    Out of curiosity, why are you so against the idea of having on on screen caller ID?
     
  20. DaveLinger

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    Yep, I learned to keep mine to myself. Why doesn't the TiVo HD have HD menus? Why doesn't it support 1080p output? Why can't it map standard-def channels to their high-def equivalents? Questions like these get "nobody cares about that stuff and tivo doesn't have the money anyway" answers every time. Seems like TiVo cares more about adding new advertising opportunities in the TiVo interface than catching up to other DVRs' features.

    But that being said, like you, I love my tivo and bought it knowing these things.
     

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