Why Tivo needs to get its head back in the game, now with their new "Edge"

Discussion in 'TiVo Edge' started by Joe3, Sep 7, 2019.

  1. TishTash

    TishTash Active Member

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    It would help if program descriptions were accurate, i.e., Gracenotes vs Rovi.
     
  2. Charles R

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    Yes you are. I have zero interest in TiVo outside of OTA recordings. It will never (be able to for a variety of reasons) offer streaming features equal to dedicated devices. For me the great effort to change inputs pales in comparisons to what one would give up. I'm not even sold on TiVo running as an app on a dedicated Android TV device... once again you'll lose more than you gain.

    I find the fact that the variety of streaming apps have wildly different interfaces decreases the user experience far more than using different inputs. And TiVo will never be able to uniform them. Bottom line let everyone do what they do best...
     
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  3. Sparky1234

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    "I find the fact that the variety of streaming apps have wildly different interfaces decreases the user experience far more than using different inputs. And TiVo will never be able to uniform them. Bottom line let everyone do what they do best..."


    Well said!
     
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  4. hapster85

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    My Roamio OTA does exactly what I bought it for: records OTA TV. In the 3 years I've had it, I've never once used the search function, or in any way asked it to suggest what I should watch. I don't use the apps either.

    As long as it continues to record what I tell it to record, I'll continue to be happy with it.
     
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  5. Rugged Ron

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    I can't recall ever doing a Tivo search, and probably never will. It's a non-issue to me.
     
  6. ej42137

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    Search was pretty useful for a short time, but the data that backed it up became very unreliable. (This isn't something we can blame Rovi for, it happened some time before the acquisition.) Although I must agree that if all you watch is OTA it's not going to be that valuable.

    But if all you watch is OTA you're living in the dark ages and TV is probably not that big a part of your life.
     
  7. Mikeguy

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    LOL. What a funny way to try to make friends and influence people.
     
  8. Charles R

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    I think you left TiVo out... all you watch on TiVo is OTA.
     
  9. ej42137

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    No. Whatever might be between you and your TV, if your only source is OTA, then TiVo search would be of little use. Even back for the short time it actually worked.
     
  10. hapster85

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    OTA isn't my only source, but it's my only source on TiVo. I use Fire TV for streaming. Rarely use the search function on it, or any of the streaming services I use either. Yet I manage to find things I want to watch. Crazy, I know.
     
  11. mschnebly

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    Ya gotta love technologies that just automatically show you things you want to watch without having to look for anything. The future is bright
     
  12. Mikeguy

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    I guess I'm missing something: why is TiVo search of little use for OTA use? It finds shows.
     
  13. TishTash

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    I suppose OTA implies very few channels, and search in general is more valuable the deeper the content?
     
  14. OrangeCrush

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    It's useful for finding a given show airing on some future date to set up a season pass once in a while, but that's about it. When I first got my Roamio I set up all the apps and tried the whole one-pass thing, but there was always too much of a lag for new episodes to pop up in the lists, like it would take over a week for things that were just added to Netflix, Amazon, etc. to show up.
     
  15. kucharsk

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    The very first thing I did with my Roamio is turn off its search of streaming and other sources for programming.

    I want to know what's being broadcast on-air, and that's it.

    If I wanted to buy it, I'd go to Amazon or iTunes instead.

    Between all the channels like Buzzr, MeTV, Antenna TV, Movies! and so on I have well over forty channels of OTA content available, which is why I want only OTA programs listed.
     
  16. mickrussom

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    what i want tivo to keep doing

    - record tv/cable reliably
    - keep their index/programIDs up to date and clean
    - keep the old ui experience as an option
    - keep things like pytivo workable so i can send videos to the tivo with metadata

    wishlist:
    - be able to ge through and automatically mark all 'V58' 'not-subscribed' and black/blank channels as unchecked. its extremely irritating that the tivo now at 20 years old cant scrub the channels for things that you dont receive.
    - be upgrade friendly - stop trying to make enthusiast's life difficult.
    - improve quality over bolt.
    - pip

    thats it.

    based one what i know about edge im likely not going to be upgrading mainly due to the forced new ui experience.
     
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  17. KevTech

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    Get your channels setup of what you receive/do not receive then use kmttg to save the channel list then you just upload on a new Tivo or the same Tivo if it was reset.
    As long as what you receive/do not receive has not changed this is a real quick way to get the channel list like you had it.

    When I went from Premiere to Bolt I just went through guided setup on the Bolt then after that was complete uploaded my nameofTivo.chan file to the Bolt and my channel list was complete of what I receive/did not receive.

    Took me all of maybe a minute and all channels I don't receive were unchecked.

    Did the same with all my season passes.
     
  18. HerronScott

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    Streaming does not mean that you have to buy it if you have subscriptions to Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu etc (and you can set it to Free only in the search options).

    Scott
     
  19. mickrussom

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    never bothered doing this. and i dont think i ever will. it will take too long...

    yes, kmttg can be used to fix crippled tivos (like who wouldnt write up an application to export/import these configs... tivo.com should do it for the user. all the config / settings /season passes/ would be utterly trivial to backup automatically to tivo.com)

    at this point with te4 not supporting pytivo/ttg i dont care anymore. the bolt-vox-te3-lifetime will be the last box - the 4th lifetime box ive owned.

    i want a v58 detection feature. if they dont implement it i will simply care less about tivo than ever before - te4 and the apparent death of ttg has been too much
     
  20. KevTech

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    What I did was log into my Comcast account then I could view all channels that my package receives. Went through unchecking what I did not receive then saved the list with kmttg.
    I think it took me about 5 minutes.

    PC to Tivo does not work but Tivo to PC does as I just used it last night.
     

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