Why should I not change to Sky+

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by campbeji, Jan 2, 2008.

  1. Pete77

    Pete77 New Member

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    This can't have been Neff/Bosch/Siemens or Miele or even Zanussi kit then. Perhaps it is all Hotpoint, Creda or Philips stuff?

    Even if a door on Bosch/Neff/Siemens stuff breaks they keep the hinges etc for about 15 years (although admittedly at a price). Just got new wheels and a new cutlery rack for my mum's Bosch dishwasher and I put a new handle on my own Neff oven 5 or 6 years ago (I believe the previous owner's infant had probably used it as an exercise bar). Also renewed a hinge on the built in fridge door about 3 years ago. I supposed with a cheap make you would just have had to bin the whole unit.

    Even the bloody Philips tv determinedly chugs on even though I would rather it turned up its toes so I could justify splashing out on a new high tech widescreen plasma full HD affair.
     
  2. TonyW

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    Agreed but Tivos are effectively computers. I don't think many computers would last 7 years when they've been switched on and working 24/7. I'm very impressed that it's done as well as it has, I've had problem with computer parts after less time and they're used an hour or two a day, not 24hrs a day.

    White goods are simple products which are designed to last many years but hard drives, PSUs etc. are not.

    I would buy a new UK Tivo like a shot but the problem I would have with buying a second hand one is that it will also have had several years of constant use, and therefore I'd worry how long that would last.

    Another thought, I don't suppose anything came of the release of new Tivos in overseas PAL countries (SE Asia I think)? I seem to recall that when this news came out there was a suggestion that it may be possible to use them in the UK (like the UK tivos taken to Australia), as opposed to the incompatable US NTSC Tivos.
     
  3. Pete77

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    The only part likely to have a short life is the hard drive and everything else in a Tivo is solid state and ought to have a longish life.

    Secondhand Tivos are not expensive and at least would allow you to continue the Tivo service as long as is possible in the UK.

    None of us are going to live forever but we can't spend our whole life worrying about that inevitability of that outcome can we? Same thing goes with the possible eventual failure of your own Tivo or the whole UK Tivo service.
     
  4. 6022tivo

    6022tivo A Happy Member

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    Wow... Something I could not live without anymore..
     
  5. Pete77

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    Likewise would not live without mine.

    Also now remarkably cheap to buy and very cheap to run given that they spend the majority of their life turned off rather than dishwashing.
     
  6. TCM2007

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    Last night the rugby KO was delayed 15 mins; TiVo missed the end, Sky+ adjusted fine.

    First time I've seen this actually work, mind!
     
  7. Raisltin Majere

    Raisltin Majere The 96 YNWA

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    I would be annoyed that tivo had caught any of it :p
     
  8. Automan

    Automan Ex TiVo User

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    Of course I suspect most of us would have bought a new Tivo if one had been on offer and personal budgets permit.

    The problem is no such beast exist :(

    Automan.
     
  9. Pete77

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    Or rather it exists but we Brits are denied it in just the same way that we are denied the American freedom to carry firearms or the German freedom to drive at whatever speed we see fit on the Autobahn.
     
  10. TCM2007

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    Utter rubbish Pete. There is no law forbidding the selling of Series 3 TiVos in the UK; and it's the law which prevents those other things.
     
  11. Pete77

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    But nonetheless it is still another of those things we are denied due to living in Britain. Which was surely the point I was making.

    However I have long since realised that you will always rearrange all points of view you do not like so as to ensure that you win the argument.

    Have you by any chance at any stage thought of entering a career in politics TCM.;):p
     
  12. TCM2007

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    You were the one who very deliberately said "we Brits are denied it in just the same way that we ".

    I presumed you used your words precisely Pete, was I wrong?
     
  13. iankb

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    However much one might object to not having every US product readily available in the UK, and at US prices, think how bad for technological-advancement it would have been if we hadn't had that large consumer market on the other side of the pond that stimulated the development in the first place.

    Whereas countries such as Japan have just as active a stimulation, they have never really felt the need to expand into Europe, with the lack of local investment, and the necessary conversions of technological infrastructures and of software interfaces. They are quite happy supporting their own internal markets.

    Just think ourselves lucky that we speak (almost) the same language as in the US, so that we don't have the problems of most other countries in Europe, where they might have difficulty getting localized versions of US-developed products.
     
  14. Automan

    Automan Ex TiVo User

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    Do any of the USA modern Tivo's record from a HDMI input using HDCP for recording protection?

    If yes, with UK program data surely such a device should be easy to make work in the UK (with Tivo's backing of course for program data, support, etc)

    Automan.
     
  15. OzSat

    OzSat Very Nice Moderator

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    One of my TiVo has automatically set Taggart to record the new ITV1 series on Tuesdays 9pm - it also reports it can't record the new CSI due to the clash!

    My other TiVo has automatically set CSI to record the new Five series on Tuesdays 9pm - it also reports it can't record the new Taggart due to the clash!


    Sky+ requires me to add both new series due to the fact they haven't been on for at least a few weeks - also:
    I can only set the one episode of Taggart as Sky+/HD indicates it has no series link!
    I can only set the one episode of CSI as Sky+/HD series link fails for this series!
     
  16. Pete77

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    Its good to know that Sky+ Series Links are still a sad joke. I wonder if Freeview Playback boxes will perform any better than this?
     
  17. Automan

    Automan Ex TiVo User

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  18. TCM2007

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    No. HD TiVos can only record a direct source.
     
  19. cyril

    cyril Active Member

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    AFAIK no consumer electronic device under 5k can record HD from an analogue output or HDMI output as the data rate is so high.

    If you have a very beefy PC and terabytes of disk space in a very fast eSATA RAID array you can do this. If using HDMI you need a naughty HDCP-stripping device as well.
     

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