Why no 3TB option?

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  1. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Well-Known Member

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    I doubt that's what he meant. If the current case could hold a 3.5" drive, they would have just used 3.5" drives. The only reason to use a 2.5" drive is a smaller case.
     
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  2. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    He gave reasons other than that, so I'm still wondering if a 3.5" would fit in there without modifying the case. No way a TiVo employee could legally recommend we open cases and do anything like that, but I do hope it's possible to fit one in there without whipping out the Dremel.

    From Ted:

    A couple of points of clarification here. First, we chose 2.5" drives for BOLT and EDGE because they tend to be quieter, use less power and in the 1TB-2TB range are about the same cost/GB as 3.5" drives. HDD vendors have now moved almost exclusively to SMR drives, and the max capacity for 2.5" drives is now 2TB.

    Also, while the comment about drive performance decreasing with capacity can sometimes be true, these drives deliver *far* more bandwidth than we need, even at our 11-stream maximum usage profile. The EDGE motherboard was designed to support 3.5" drives as well, and we have not ruled out the idea of a larger size unit at some point in the product lifecycle.
     
  3. tarheelblue32

    tarheelblue32 Well-Known Member

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    Fair enough, but if we're going by his words he says "The EDGE motherboard was designed to support 3.5" drives as well, and we have not ruled out the idea of a larger size unit at some point in the product lifecycle." If all he meant by that was that TiVo might shove a 3.5" drive into the current Edge chassis, that was a very strange way to word it. He specifically says that the "motherboard was designed to support" it, and then references producing a "larger size unit". That implies to me that the internal electronics of the Edge will support a 3.5" drive, but they will have to use a larger external box to accommodate it.
     
  4. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    OK I think you're right. Larger-size unit, not large-sized drive. I missed that. OK, time to break out the Dremel. Or not. Jk, I'd rather stay with TE3 for now, and anyway am still waiting on reviews from EDGE owners. After the Bolt, I'm no longer a TiVo early adopter.
     
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  5. TiVo_Ted

    TiVo_Ted Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but not that are rated for 24/7 AV usage.
     
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  6. Mikeguy

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    Sounds like an opening there. ;)
     
  7. aaronwt

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    No, but my 4TB, 2.5" Seagate has now been running for over 35,000 hours in Bolts, after four years of use.

    Historically, I've never seen any difference(from a user perspective), in the several dozen TiVos I've owned. With both AV rated and non AV rated drives. Both 2.5" and 3.5" drives.
    I've had both AV and non AV rated drives last for many, many years, running 24/7/365 in TiVos.

    But then I've typically had great results with hard drives. With the several hundred drives I've used in PCs, servers, and DVRs over the last twenty four years at home. It's been rare for me to have a issue.

    The other 4TB, 2.5" drive I got in October 2015 was one of the few drives I did have an issue with. Since it had an issue after 2.5 years. And then I dropped it hard, carrying it on my way to check it out, on the corner of a hard piece of metal. So there was no way I was going to be able to do anything with it after that. Since after that it was toast.
     
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  8. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Presumably (yes, I know: that can be dangerous), there is a reason for/benefit of a 24/7 A/V rating.
     
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  10. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    That's good to see, though at the moment they're about four times the price of spinning HDDs so maybe I won't be the first to experiment with those.
     
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