Why is it that CBS skips a show because of an overrun?

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  1. Jun 14, 2017 #41 of 467
    sean67854

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    Looking at my recordings, I do see 2 of the same titled eps of Elementary in back to back weeks. We are 9 episodes from the end of the season, so i didn't notice.
     
  2. Jun 14, 2017 #42 of 467
    That Don Guy

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    Yes, ABC did. I think the "unwritten rule" in this case is, if the event will last for at least 30 minutes more, and it isn't a "big ratings" event (e.g. pretty much any NFL game), then it will be moved.

    I assume you live out west, like I do? "Back in the day," when a show was pre-empted in the east because of a long-running sporting event, the network would either skip it (and have the local stations fill the slot) or move the rest of that night's shows back in the west. Today, the standard policy seems to be to air a repeat of the pre-empted show in its normal time slot. In fact, CBS did this with an episode of The Price is Right last week when its coverage of a Senate hearing pre-empted it in the east but ended just before its Pacific start time.
     
  3. Jun 14, 2017 #43 of 467
    danderson400

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    Sports always seem to take precedence over syndicated shows. College football is an example.
     
  4. Jun 14, 2017 #44 of 467
    mattack

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    Not _IF THEY UPDATE THE ORIGINAL AIR DATE_, like I said, which has been done in the past...
     
  5. Jun 15, 2017 #45 of 467
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    That hasn't been my experience.
     
  6. Jun 15, 2017 #46 of 467
    mattack

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    I didn't say they do that every time, but they have done it once in a while.
     
  7. Oct 2, 2017 #47 of 467
    danderson400

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    Personally, i wish the NFL would change it's TV policy; that way FOX and CBS would only need two feeds for prime time shows on Sundays. If FOX or CBS could switch to the end of a 4:05 game still in progress, it would make things easier for the networks.
     
  8. Oct 2, 2017 #48 of 467
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    I assume you mean three feeds - Eastern/Central, Mountain (1 hour behind Eastern/Central), and Pacific.

    Three questions.

    First, change the policy to what, and, for that matter, from what?

    Second, since when can't Fox or CBS switch to the end of a 4:05 game still in progress? It happens all the time where I live, and this was even when the game in progress was a Raiders game that had been blacked out.

    Third, do you mean "4:05," or "4:25"? A "4:05" game is one where that network does not have a doubleheader. I am not aware of either CBS or Fox having multiple east coast feeds when it does not have a doubleheader that week. It is possible that a local station that has a 4:05 game will "time shift" the primetime lineup by a few minutes so it does not have to air anything in progress, although I would not be surprised if one of the reasons Fox does not air a new episode of a show at 7 Eastern on Sundays is, stations can join it in progress without too much of a problem.
     
  9. Oct 2, 2017 #49 of 467
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    It's not the NFL's TV policy but the networks. They often do switch to other NFL games after their main one is over. I especially know this because CBS does it quite a bit an it delays the start of their slate of shows at 7PM (eastern) and it bugs me.
     
  10. Oct 3, 2017 #50 of 467
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    Fox handles this fine with their buffer "OT" program. CBS clearly does not care, as it must be working for them.
     
  11. Oct 3, 2017 #51 of 467
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    The "OT" usually works out OK. Unless there is some unusually long game. That happened he other week when the Dallas/Denver game had a lengthy delay due to weather in Denver.
     
  12. Oct 3, 2017 #52 of 467
    Steveknj

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    Ratings for the CBS slate of shows goes up when they have a football lead in, even if it overruns. So, not only do they care, but it works for them to leave it as is.
     
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    jsmeeker

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    Well, to be fair, they don't care about DVR users getting "screwed"
     
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  14. Oct 3, 2017 #54 of 467
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    CBS did make a slight change a few years ago. On days when they have a late game, they delay the start of the prime time schedule 30 minuets. Unfortunately, this is rarely enough.

    No idea what "policy" you are talking about. The games start when they start. What you want is for the NFL to schedule all late games for a 4:05 eastern time start. Not gonna happen.

    Fox has an advantage over CBS as they only have 3 hours of prime time programing on Sunday rather than 4.
     
  15. Oct 4, 2017 #55 of 467
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    Actually Fox I think has 2 (and 3 during non football season). They do sometimes throw in a rerun of one of their shows if the game runs shorter. Do actually schedule something for the 7-8 timeslot besides the OT? But FOX also doesn't have a traditional Sunday at 7PM show that people would be mad if they moved (60 Minutes) which must make CBS a lot of money. Otherwise, they could have it premiere after football season. But as mentioned, CBS slate of shows rate higher with the NFL lead in. Fox would do the same if they had a strong 7 - 7:30 show.
     
  16. Oct 4, 2017 #56 of 467
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    I started to write 2 then I checked last Sunday. FOX had a 4PM game and had a Simpsons rerun at 7PM followed by 2.5 hours of new prime time programming. No "OT", so I suppose this was an anomaly.
     
  17. Oct 4, 2017 #57 of 467
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    Your local station got a 4 PM game. You may have noticed that it did not also have a 1 PM game. Except for the final week of the regular season, only one of the two networks has a national doubleheader on any particular Sunday. "The OT" is on only when Fox airs a doubleheader.

    When it is not a Fox doubleheader, like it was not on 10/1 (and will not be on 10/15 and 10/22), Fox schedules three hours of programming on Sundays - a repeat at 7 Eastern, followed by 2 1/2 hours of new shows (Bob's Burgers, The Simpsons, Ghosted, Family Guy, and The Last Man on Earth). In those few cities in the Eastern and Central time zones that got the Eagles-Chargers game at 4 PM (and then would have gone to the end of the 49ers-Cardinals game if the Eagles game ended first), the Fox programming would have been joined in progress. If the game runs so long that an entire show is pre-empted, I think the station is expected to air it at some point (for example, at midnight).
     
  18. Oct 4, 2017 #58 of 467
    lpwcomp

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    We got neither game. We got Giants@Bucs. I've never seen FOX programming "joined in progress". Why do you presume to know what happens on the east coast?
     
  19. Oct 4, 2017 #59 of 467
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    You got me on that first one - I didn't notice that Fox had a third 4:00 game on the broadcast map (scroll down to the "Fox Single" map).

    I "presume to know what happens on the east coast" because I have asked people on the east coast, and that is what they said happened.

    Tell me, what does happen when Fox coverage ends at, say, 7:15 Eastern and there's no "The OT" running until 8:00? Does the entire lineup get delayed by 15 minutes?
     
  20. Oct 4, 2017 #60 of 467
    lpwcomp

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    To tell you the truth, since they don't schedule anything new at 7, I don't really know. I have seen them delay the schedule if coverage runs past the scheduled start time of a new episode.

    It would be silly for a local station to show something originally scheduled for 7:30 or 8:00 at midnight. Who the heck is going to stay up just for that even if they know about it? And why would the local station further screw up their schedule?
     

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