Why is it that CBS skips a show because of an overrun?

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  1. Steveknj

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    It still seems weird to me to see 2 teams from the same conference on the opposite network. I guess it's just not that strict anymore.
     
  2. Mr Tony

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    its been going on for 7 years now (since 2014 season)
    In the 2014 NFL season, a related policy known as "cross-flexing" became available, where games can now be swapped between CBS and Fox, regardless of conference, in order to improve balance between the two networks, and expand the distribution of noteworthy games.

    There have been 12 crossflexed games so far this season
     
  3. Steveknj

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    I'm aware of the policy, but there seems to be much more off-conference broadcasts this year than other years, almost to the point where it just doesn't matter if it's an NFC or AFC game anymore.
     
  4. Mr Tony

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    There were 22 last season including 5 on week 3 alone. Note that a fair amount of the games were a AFC team vs a NFC team but the old "road teams network" rule was thrown out.
     
  5. danderson400

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    Correct. Falcons/Colts which would be a FOX game was on CBS. It aired in Indiana, Illinois, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, East Texas, Tenn, SC, NC and Ky including Atlanta, Indy, Nashville, Birmingham, Tampa and Charlotte. FOX would have had too many games and would have used someone like Gus Johnson or Tim Brando on that game. Didn't CBS once have 9 games in 2003, and had to use Bill Macatee on one game?
     
  6. lambertman

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    Are you seriously expecting someone other than you to remember that?
     
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  7. Mr Tony

    Mr Tony formerly known as "unclehonkey"

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    WTF are you talking about? I was talking about last week not some random week in 2015
    And as to your last question you already know the answer or can easily find it

    Thats par for the course for danderson400, 500, 600, 666 (he uses multiple user names at different sites). He'll ask some random question that he knows the answer to or can easily look it up.
    Great example...he'll post a couple times a year at numerous sites why Charlotte carried a CBS late game on a particular week but CBS Greenville/Ashville carried the early game. The answer? Carolina is at home on FOX on DH network so no game can be shown same time on the Singleheader network (as is the case this week)
     
  8. That Don Guy

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    "Can't", or, "They're smart enough not to air the one game it gets at the same time as the local team's game on Fox?" Going by the maps at 506, it appears that the rule that if one station has the home market team playing a home game, the other can't show any game at all is no longer enforced.
     
  9. Mr Tony

    Mr Tony formerly known as "unclehonkey"

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    The rule is still enforced. If the local team is at home on the doubleheader network (in this week FOX) the singleheader network MUST show a game in the opposite timeslot in the PRIMARY market of said team.
    If the team is on the road they aren't forced to but most markets will.
    outside of the primary market you can (Mankato as example has shown 4 early games on the SH network against a Vikes home game including week 1)

    So this week FOX has the DH
    New Orleans, Charlotte and Cleveland MUST show a late CBS game (and they are) as they are the home teams
    Atlanta, Philly and Detroit are the road teams so its not required...but all 3 are showing a late game to not go against the local team

    There use to be a rule that if a team was at home on the singleheader network no game could be shown against it on the other network (known as the lost DH). That rule has been relaxed. Otherwise Baltimore, Jacksonville, Houston, and Washington DC would not have a early FOX game and Denver and LA would not have a late FOX game

    LA and NY have different rules due to having 2 teams in the market.
     
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  10. danderson400

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    Debunked in that Fox switched to 49ers-Rams when Saints-Broncos was a blowout. I thought the stations showing that game cannot switch to another game unless all of the games on CBS was over.
     
  11. That Don Guy

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    I don't think that applies to switching games in the middle of a game.

    Also, the NFL apparently tried an experiment last season, where each team has to allow the DH network to air a game in its home market at the same time as the local team's home game on the non-DH station on at least two weekends. Apparently, the rule is in effect this season as well.
     
  12. Mr Tony

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    they (FOX) used the "blowout rule" where they can switch to a more competitive game which they can do.
    When Denver game got over (around 10 minutes to top of the hour) they went to the studio for filler and then started FOX Sunday night programming at correct time. The markets that kept Denver/Saints the whole time could not go to SF/LA as bonus coverage
    Folks who ended up with SF/LA due to the blowout rule Simpsons rerun was JIP'd as game got over about :15 after the hour
     
  13. Mr Tony

    Mr Tony formerly known as "unclehonkey"

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    correct
    this year it went to 4 games and there has only been two times so far this year when that happened
    -week 6 Miami was on CBS late and GB/TB was the national GOTW. Miami could not show it
    -yesterday Denver could not show KC/TB

    The reason both of these were given had to do with NFL ST and apparently when a Sunday afternoon game is nationwide one market gets "shut out" so NFL ST can count that game (they have to meet a minimum amount apparently). The options were Denver or LA and no way the #2 market was going to lose out on that.
     
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    danderson400

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    Just like what's happening with the Steelers game. Fox would want it national, but DirecTV wants NFL ST to show it so it can count that game (they have to meet a minimum amount apparently). However, DirecTV is actually making it available to all subscribers on the Sunday Ticket channel (712), even if they don't subscribe to Sunday Ticket.
     
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    Mr Tony

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    The game was never national. FOX knew it was going to be regional mid last week

    and yes as I already said NFL ST has a minimum number of game requirement. Dont know why you felt the need to repeat what I said :rolleyes:
     
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    HarleyRandom

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    I can't ever recall this happening but Dolly Parton announced her show would be on at 8:30, 7:30 Central, 8:00 Pacific. It never occurred to me that people out West would see these shows at their normal time.
     
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    trainman

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    When they say, as they have said for decades, "Stay tuned for '60 Minutes,' immediately following the game, except on the West Coast"... what they mean is that "60 Minutes" doesn't immediately follow the game on the West Coast (because it airs at 7:00 P.M. Pacific).
     
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    HarleyRandom

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    Yeah, I've heard that many times, but when they (anyone) advertise the specific time of a show, they say something like "8/7 Central". Occasionally it is live everywhere so they have all four mainland time zones.
     
  19. danderson400

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    So..you say that NBC once had to interrupt an NFL game in overtime because it had to show its national news before a World Series game, i thought that NBC would be contractually obligated to show the NFL game to conclusion.
     
  20. That Don Guy

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    I don't think that requirement existed when this happened - otherwise, NBC wouldn't have cut away from the game to air its normal news program.
     

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