Why is it that CBS skips a show because of an overrun?

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  1. Jun 5, 2017 #21 of 467
    tomhorsley

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    Never underestimate the stupidity of advertisers. Not too many years ago (and maybe even now, but I don't notice it any longer) TV networks used to have "sweeps" weeks where they would put on nothing but specials which were in no way related to their normal programming, then Neilsen would calculate the ratings and advertisers would pay for ads based on those ratings. For some reason (possibly related to total stupidity) advertisers put up with that system, even though the prices they paid for ads had no relationship to the ratings of the programming they advertised on.

    Personally, I'd like to see my solution (which will never happen): Advertisers pay me (probably in some sort of virtual credit not redeemable for cash) for watching their ads. They probably make them interactive to prove there is really someone watching. They might even make them more entertaining than an average reality TV show.

    Then I watch all the shows that interest me on demand, paying for them with virtual credits (which the production companies can convert to cash). The networks completely disappear and no longer interfere with the story tellers.

    I can also buy virtual credits with actual cash in case I'd rather do that than watch commercials to build up my account.

    No networks, no channels, just story tellers telling stories to anyone who likes their stories. No advertisers being offended by a story because they don't even know what stories they are paying for. Better even than a-la-carte. The ultimate pay only for what you watch. Basically, this turns TV into books :).
     
  2. Jun 5, 2017 #22 of 467
    danderson400

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    I don't remember NBC ever cutting away from a NFL game; if you say they did one time because it had to show its national news before a World Series game, i don't remember it; if NBC had a doubleheader, then they wouldn't need to do that. Maybe the World Series was pushed back for the game.

    As far has the the King of the Hill Thanksgiving episode that was delayed for an entire year, that was because FOX switched to the Cardinals-Raiders game after the Cowboys-Redskins game, and the Cardinals-Raiders game went into overtime.
     
  3. Jun 5, 2017 #23 of 467
    danderson400

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    What i do remember, at least in 1995, was that if NBC switched to another game, they'd have the 7pm show eat the "bonus" game's overrun. Mad About You seemed to start at 8pm every time i checked, such as after the Jacksonville-Houston, Seattle-Denver, Pittsburgh-Chicago and Indianapolis-Miami games.
     
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    One of the trials of becoming old is remembering such things and younger folks disbelieving they ever happened.

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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Another is remembering things that never happened. ;)
     
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  7. Jun 6, 2017 #27 of 467
    Steveknj

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    Yes, this is exactly my point, CBS especially with it's established lineup will never NOT run their full schedule as ratings are always higher on the nights where the NFL runs over.
     
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    Steveknj

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    Wait, what are you talking about? Do work in the industry? You are reading WAY to much into what I'm saying. But since you are the "expert" (in your mind), I'll defer to you.
     
  9. Jun 6, 2017 #29 of 467
    Steveknj

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    As That Don Guy said, it happened once in the 1960s where NBC cut away from a Jets-Raiders game to show Heidi. Oakland scores two late TDs and wins the game after NBC cut away. The switchboard at NBC lit up with irate fans. After that, the networks stopped cutting away until the games were over. Check YouTube or one of the pay subscription services and look up "Heidi Bowl" . There was a great special a few years ago about it.

    Now I DO remember NBC cutting away from an OT hockey game to show their coverage of one of the Triple Crown Horse Races a few years ago. But the situation is a bit different. This is cutting from one sporting event to another and, unlike 1968, NBC has a Sports Network where they can show the remainder of a game, so viewers who were still interested could still watch.
     
  10. Jun 6, 2017 #30 of 467
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    That's what wikipedia is for:
    Trust, but verify.

    Seems like a passive-aggressive way of bowing out of the discussion but I'll respect your wishes.
     
  11. Jun 7, 2017 #31 of 467
    danderson400

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    I do remember a few years ago, when a Bills-Jets game almost delayed the Emmys.

    Did ABC have a NASCAR race one year that ran so long, that it got moved to ESPN for the American Music Awards?(expect out west, where the race was simulcast on both networks.) In that case it was because of a rain delay, and the points title was coming down to the final race.

    As far as CBS pulling it 8:00 show on Sunday, it's happened before, like when the Eagles-Raiders game ran all the way to 8; the same thing happened with an Raiders-49ers game in 2000; I do remember one year when FOX dumped Married With Children to show "bonus coverage" of the Eagles-Cardinals game, and even though the game ended before 8, they did a postgame so that The Simpsons would start at 8.
     
  12. Jun 8, 2017 #32 of 467
    sean67854

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    It must be a timezone thing because I don't remember any national network completely skipping airing a program due to sports overrun on Sundays.
     
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    At least once maybe twice in this past season alone, CBS has not aired Elementary due to an hour overrun on the evening. Elementary is the last show of the night, and they won't start it if it's delayed more than an hour. Madam Secretary takes the last slot, and then the news starts on time.

    I'm pretty sure they also canceled it for the West Coast too, even though they didn't need too. But it kept everything consistent, and they showed that episode the next week.
     
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    And in a way that was doing them a favor, giving the show a chance to save itself by holding back new episodes until they could broadcast them at a predictable time. It wasn't enough.
     
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    astrohip

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    If you're referring to my post about Elementary, it was renewed. :confounded:
     
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    Shows you how good my memory is on a Saturday morning.

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  18. Jun 13, 2017 #38 of 467
    mattack

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    Yes, they definitely have sweeps weeks, and the networks still sometimes air specials/special movies/etc., in those weeks to get ratings..

    Though even with their "regular" programming, with the great reduction in new episodes/year for most shows (22 is about the high end), a TON of those are saved for the sweeps weeks, which is why there seem to be more batches of new episodes then batches of reruns, instead of sprinkling them together..

    (BTW, PBS does largely the same thing, during pledge break season.. airing many specials that don't air the rest of the year AND even their regular programming often has pledge breaks which are WORSE than ads since they're much longer/more of a pain to skip... and break up the show you want to watch in unexpected ways -- i.e. sometimes there are abrupt cuts to the pledge break.)
     
  19. Jun 13, 2017 #39 of 467
    mattack

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    BTW, on the west coast, we get far less show delaying/preemption (though a bunch of Jeopardy episodes were moved to middle of the night), but I'd rather have the show SKIPPED than air in the wrong time slot, since then the guide data can be updated to the new air date, and the tivo will 'just work', where it wouldn't (without manual padding) in the delayed case.
     
  20. Jun 13, 2017 #40 of 467
    brianric

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    Not necessarily. I believe there's a 28 day rule, so if the skipped show is aired less than 28 days from it's original air date it's not going to be recorded if you have record new shows only.
     

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