Why is Clear and Delete needed after instantcake?

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by Anewman, Jan 17, 2006.

  1. Anewman

    Anewman New Member

    Jan 17, 2006


    Ok the hard drive in my DirectvR10 died so I had an extra 100 gig drive and used Instantcake to bake it. But I noticed that after placing drive back into R10 the recorder seemed to work but I used the Clear and Delete as instructed by instantcake.

    Well clear and delete puts the r10 in so much of a out of box condition that the recorder now requires a "phone call" to directv to activate the recorder. WELL I have not had a land line in about 8 months and I do not want to call Directv because of sports subs that "require" landlines.

    So what I am really asking is, will forgoing the Clear and delete cause issues later on?
    If the recorder works without doing the clear and delete should I just ignore the instructions?
    If there are side effects, what should I be looking for?
  2. funtoupgrade

    funtoupgrade New Member

    Mar 15, 2005
    I don't think you are going to hurt anything by continuing without it. Hard to predict what problems, if any, might arise. Did you talk to the folks from whom you bought the Instant Cake - they would be in a much better position to advise you on this.
  3. the new guy

    the new guy occasional poster

    Oct 29, 2004
    Fort Collins CO
    The InstantCake image was taken from a particular receiver, with a serial number that does not match yours. The C&DE will reset the serial number in the software to match up with your machine. If you try to record without resetting the software, you will most likely get a #51 error, and be unable to record. An unfortunate side effect of the C&DE is that guided setup needs to be run.

    If you had made a backup of your original drive before it died, you would not have needed to C&DE or run guided setup, as the serial number would already be correct for your receiver.

  4. Anewman

    Anewman New Member

    Jan 17, 2006
    Thank you very much this explains alot, and you are correct it will NOT record. It lets me go throught the motions and create season passes and to do list, but the record never takes place.
    So if I want to record I must clear and delete. One question if I take this box to the office and have it place a call there, will there be an issue because the phone numbers do not match?

    Does it also call in PPV data during that setup call, because after the clear and delete there is one PPV purchase showing but all the info list as "title not available" and cost is "unkown".

    will any of these fake call things work on the R10?
  5. Diana Collins

    Diana Collins Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Aug 21, 2002
    New York...


    You can only use fakecall if you hack the unit, which on a R10 require a hardware modification (PROM replacement). Different phone numbers will not be a problem.
  6. classicsat

    classicsat Astute User

    Feb 18, 2004
    Ontario Canada.
    It doesn't matter where you phone in from. The setup call is only to the TiVo servers with their 800 number or local POP.

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