I bought a Humax Foxsat HDR a few months ago and at first all I did was moan about its horrible user interface and how it was much more fiddly to do things that on Tivo were a breeze. But then..... I realised the picture quality of the Humax was amazing, even in SD. However we still have some much older recordings on the Tivo and when we watched something recently, I could not believe how I had accepted such an absolutely lousy picture. I still wish the Foxsat replicated certain Tivo features and I wish its user interface wasn't so aesthetically unappealing; I also do really still miss certain aspects of Tivo including the fact my partner finds it an absolute doddle to use - not something she's ever likely to say about the Foxsat. But that picture quality! C'mon, don't you all agree? I know there'll be some people who talk about how it can be modded but I think a product shouldn't have to be modded, especially when those mods are not authorised. From what I've seen of the Virgin model, looks like those lovely blue clean screens have gone to be replaced by cluttered screens all in a horrible - to my mind - red colour. I can't get cable and even if I could, it's unlikely I would sign up.