Why don't people watch 30 Rock?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Turtleboy, Nov 16, 2009.

  1. Nov 17, 2009 #61 of 240

    zuko3984 Well-Known Member

    May 4, 2002


    Why is it that when people try to defend shows like 30 rock or arrested development they almost always say things like "it's smart comedy' or "you need to think to like this show" or things along those lines. It's like they are implying that if you don't like this show you must be dumb.

    Maybe people just have different taste and especially in comedy what is funny to one person is not to another.
  2. Nov 17, 2009 #62 of 240

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    No, it's not like that at all. Can't really describe the difference, but I really enjoy the behind-the-scenes aspects and entertainment industry references of Entourage, while on 30 Rock they're just different.
    It's as simple as this. The networks are able to charge more for ads on Thursday nights than on any other night of the week, because advertisers want to reach the audience before the weekend (movies, sales, etc.). Therefore, in order to maximize advertising revenue, the networks have to put their best shows on Thursday night, despite the fact that they're all competing against one another.
  3. Nov 17, 2009 #63 of 240

    YCantAngieRead Not Entirely Current

    Nov 5, 2003
    I've said a million times...the pilot of 30 Rock SUCKED. I hated it. And yet, I gave it a few more episodes and now it's my favorite show.

    No. As much as I love this show, that episode sucked. I hate Jeff Dunham.
  4. Nov 17, 2009 #64 of 240

    busyba The Funcooker

    Feb 5, 2003
    It's possible for smart people to dislike the show. No one is saying otherwise.

    It's just that it's impossible for dumb people to like it.
  5. Nov 17, 2009 #65 of 240

    leeherman Well-Known Member

    Nov 5, 2007
    Long Island, NY


    Guess I must be one of the dumb people who don't get intelligent humor as that was probably my favorite episode.

  6. Nov 17, 2009 #66 of 240

    Neenahboy Statistical outlier

    Apr 7, 2004
    Seattle, WA
    Took me a long time to get past the pilot, but since I did it's become a show that I watch regularly (I bet that's something I'll be saying about Parks and Recreation eventually, but the wounds are still too fresh :D ). Still, I have to be in a certain mood before I can stomach Tracy Morgan and Jane Krakowski for 22 minutes, and that often takes several weeks to build up.
  7. Nov 17, 2009 #67 of 240

    SorenTodd New Member

    May 26, 2009
    I prefer "dysfunctional family" type sitcoms (like Home Improvement, Malcolm, or Bill Engvall Show), so 30 Rock just doesn't cut it for me. Watched the first season and realized that it just wasn't all that funny.
  8. Nov 17, 2009 #68 of 240

    classicX Don't scream.

    May 10, 2006
    Miles away...
    I've seen clips and always thought it was hilarious but I suppose I didn't want to jump into the show in the middle without knowing the back story.

    Which seems weird, since I jumped into "The Office" and I didn't know that back story either. Maybe I'll give it a go.
  9. Nov 17, 2009 #69 of 240

    MickeS Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    Same here. Well, I like Alec Baldwin, but none of the others.

    It's just too silly and not remotely connected to the real world for it to be funny to me. Of course, I've only seen one episode, but based on that I don't know what could be considered "well written" in it. I thought it was just dumb.
  10. Nov 17, 2009 #70 of 240

    MickeS Well-Known Member

    Dec 26, 2002
    And this. :) Way too desperate for a laugh.
  11. Nov 17, 2009 #71 of 240

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    Sorry, but no it doesn't. Tried it several times...same result....stinko.
  12. Nov 17, 2009 #72 of 240

    StacieH betativowho??

    Jan 2, 2009
    Between San...
    For me the main reason is that I’m not a fan of sketch comedy (SNL hasn’t been funny in eons), and am not interested in watching a fictional show that takes place behind the scenes of a sketch comedy show.

    I realized not too long ago that I watch only a few comedies, period. I’m more interested in dramas.
  13. Nov 17, 2009 #73 of 240

    jeepair Member

    Apr 21, 2004
  14. Nov 17, 2009 #74 of 240

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    If you're enjoying P&R, you should check out Alan Sepinwall's blog post for the most recent episode, as well as the comments. It appears that some people are really enjoying P&R this season.
    While there's still a chance you may not like the show, don't discount it solely because it takes place at a sketch show. There is very, very little of the 30 Rock show that has anything to do with the actual content of the TGS show.
  15. Nov 17, 2009 #75 of 240

    DreadPirateRob Seriously?

    Nov 11, 2002
    No, actually it does. You're wrong. :) I barely made it through the pilot because it was so unfunny, but by the end of the first season it had become one of my favorite shows. It's not quite as good now as it has been in the past, but it's still a great show.

    That said, it's not for everyone. It's fairly high-brow and absurdist in its comedy, which doesn't appeal to a lot of people who like their laughs more predictable. And yes, it is "smart" comedy. That doesn't mean that if you don't like it you're not smart (although it might ;)), but it does mean that many people are simply not going to get it.

    And I live by the beach in SoCal, which means I'm about as far from being a NY insider as anyone, but I don't have any problem "getting" the show as long as I'm paying attention.
  16. Nov 17, 2009 #76 of 240

    cmaasfamily New Member

    Jan 26, 2006
    30Rock holds the record for most SP's set up and then deleted in my house. And probably most episodes recorded but never watched.

    It is an odd thing. I travel on long haul international flights a lot and frequently there are a couple of 30R episode on the in-flight entertainment system. I watch 'em. I love 'em. I laugh out loud. I get home and set a SP - and almost never watch or watch 10 minutes of an episode and delete the SP. Repeat.

    So, a couple of things are going on:

    1) the few episodes that make it to in-flight are cherry picked, best-of; suggesting there may be inconsistency, and
    2) there is something to the "must pay attention to really get it" line of discussion postulated here. 'cause there sure aren't many distractions midway through a 12-15 hour flight.
  17. Nov 17, 2009 #77 of 240

    billypritchard Embiggener

    May 7, 2001
    St. Louis, MO
    It's too witty for dumb-ass america.


    Actually, since it's so absurd, I don't know that I consider it witty. Some of the stuff is plain stupid humor. But I do love it.

    And I don't really get the 'liberal elite' aspect of why people don't like it. Are Baldwin and Fey liberal types? Yes. But the show skewers left and right alike. Jack often wins the day with his point of view, and he's the conservative. It's like the show wants to take digs at the right, but in the end they think the right will win anyway.

    The above mentioned Kia Sorrento joke was completely making fun of east coast snobbery. They do that all the time.
  18. Nov 17, 2009 #78 of 240

    aindik Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2002
    Maybe geographically, but not culturally. SoCal is way closer to the east coast than is much of the country that lies between the two.

    The characters on 30 Rock, save one, are self-centered and unlikeable. The one who isn't a self-centered, unlikeable elitist is portrayed as a complete rube.

    It's not about left and right. It's about urban and not urban.

    Though, people said the same thing about the characters in Seinfeld (though, no rube), but it did extremely well in the ratings despite it.
  19. Nov 17, 2009 #79 of 240

    BrettStah Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Nov 12, 2000
    San Antonio
  20. Nov 17, 2009 #80 of 240

    BrettStah Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Nov 12, 2000
    San Antonio
    Or this (except it still doesn't explain 'Seinfeld'):

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