Advertisements There's nothing in either of those threads that talks about the PQ of the HR10. They just compare the PQ of SD content when viewed through the HR20 vs. other HD receivers. Besides, it's not Tivo that determines which markets they are allowed to participate in. DTV calls the shots with their own service, not Tivo. Tivo wanted to keep the partnership going. It was DTV that wanted to bail until Tivo threatened to sue for copyright infringements. Tivo and DTV just renewed their agreement for another three years so I don't see how you can say that Tivo is shutting the door on anything sat related. The S3 just provides them with an additional market for their prioducts. The HR10 will still be in use years from now. If you have an active DTV account with the DVR service you will be able to use it indefinitely. You can bet that the Tivo/DVR service for the HR10 will extend well beyond the current three year window. DTV has too many loyal Tivo customers to simply cut them off. It makes more sense for DTV to keep them and have a steady source of income from existing DTivo owners than to have to provide them with new DVRs that are mpeg4 ready. The mpeg2 channels will still be broadcast for a long time. The HR10 will still be able to record the mpeg2 programming as well as OTA HD content.