Why can't TiVo record the World Series?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by BubbaDude, Oct 27, 2006.

  1. tommiet

    tommiet Active Member

    Oct 28, 2005
    No worries for me... I missed the World Series of Football too last year.
  2. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

    Nov 27, 2014
    I did not see the World Series in the guide so I set up a manual recording but I agree there has to be a better way. BTW a great world series.
  3. PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

    Jun 4, 2015
    Philly suburbs
    I get that but if all TiVos can somehow connect over a 24 hour period, they could shorten it to about a 10-12 hour window, considering some users are in other time zones and not all on the east coast (tho most TVs are in ET or CT, not sure about TiVo’s tho). This isn’t complicated.
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  4. PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

    Jun 4, 2015
    Philly suburbs

    I think you are a far more generous grader than I am lol. In this regard I think it’s below expectations.
  5. markjrenna

    markjrenna Member

    Mar 23, 2006
    New Jersey
    TiVo should do a service connection between 3 pm and 5 pm daily. If they can't handle the load... get another server!
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  6. kdmorse

    kdmorse Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 2001
    Germantown, MD
    Actually, you're not asking too much, because they have that technology, and have used it in the past. I do not know what happened to it, or why it hasn't been used (that I've seen) in years.

    They have, in the past, had the ability to push last minute updates globally to all units. They used to use this for televised presidential addresses, and other truly unexpected events - which went out to all units, with less than 15 minutes notice - outside the normal daily call schedule - and not as a guide update, but as an overlay to the scheduled timeslot. (ie, you could actually page up and down in the guild, for a brief second see the original schedule, then the presidential address would replace it).

    So... they have (had?) the technology... for unexpected changes.
    And lets face it, this was *not* unexpected. There's no justification for units being caught 'by surprise', by Game 7 of the world series. There's no reason a human should have had to be on deck to do a manual daily call that afternoon.
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  7. kdmorse

    kdmorse Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 2001
    Germantown, MD

    I wish to yell at the clouds about the way that Manual Recordings no longer have user settable priorities, are considered the lowest priority possible, even below auto-record wishlists, and frequently just go 'poof' on scheduling changes.

    Had I not been home, 3 of the games would not have recorded. I set a manual recording the night before. (Why not a one-pass, I don't know, I was just in a Manual mood I guess). I verified it in the todo list. I verified there were 6 things scheduled to record at 8pm, one of which was my manual recording.

    Come game time the next day, it's not recording. Six things are recording, including two auto-record wishlist items. It clearly recomputed the todo after the next schedule, decided there were 6 things more important than the very deliberately set manual recording, and decided not to record it.

    Before the OnePass code was introduced, manual recordings got a temporary slot in the season pass list, and you could pop them up to the top. Now they appear to hold an invisible bottom slot on the list, subject to being recomputed out of existence. I lost most of the World Series of Poker this year this way as well (All my carefully set 12 hour recording blocks were 're-prioritized' out of existence).

    Yet another original Tivo feature that is now just broken beyond repair...
  8. mattack

    mattack Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    I agree with you, though doesn't the Tivo connect with their servers any time you go into Now Playing, e.g. to get the SkipMode data?

    I guess those are DIFFERENT servers.. but you'd think they could (have?) made some sort of small guide data check, maybe only for broadcast channels, be done much more than the approx once a day cadence of the 'regular' "call"..

    ESPECIALLY now that things aren't actually over phone lines.
  9. Nov 1, 2019 #129 of 131

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2005
    Doesn't it just feel like TiVo has "given up" in being up-to-date and that's the sad new norm? Presumably, for financial reasons?
  10. Nov 1, 2019 #130 of 131

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    Since I started tracking service connections, they have always been from 2am until 6pm Eastern. The spacing is about every 14 hours. The result is one day with no data and one day with two days of data. Those two "special" days vary between boxes. You can do restarts or even change the HDD, but that box's schedule will return in a day or two. If there is no data when expected, I post it here: Daily Guide Updates

    Bad data, when part of a series, I post here: Season Pass Alerts
  11. Nov 1, 2019 #131 of 131

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

    Jun 4, 2015
    Philly suburbs
    That’s all correct but again depending on when your box connects on any given day you may or may not get the updated data that day. Very troubling.
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