Why can't TiVo record the World Series?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by BubbaDude, Oct 27, 2006.

  1. Nov 2, 2016 #101 of 131

    dolph88 New Member

    Nov 25, 2006
    Agreed. There should be a quicker method to get guide updates delivered to devices.
  2. Nov 2, 2016 #102 of 131

    tim1724 Active Member TCF Club

    Jul 3, 2007
    Temple City, CA
    Yeah, TiVo needs to fix two separate issues.
    1. They need to issue a software update so guide data is downloaded more than once per day (or have a better system for propagating last minute changes).
    2. They need to improve the Rovi guide data.
  3. Nov 2, 2016 #103 of 131

    jlb Go Pats!

    Dec 13, 2001
    Burlington, VT
    I agree, but think of it this way....If they COULD send a command to have all boxes call in to get the update, I imagine that would overwhelm the servers if every single TiVo box called home about the same time.....

    Point of note, I just checked my box and no updated data yet. I forced a connection about 20min ago and letting it index right now. Will check in a bit.
  4. Nov 2, 2016 #104 of 131

    rainwater Active Member

    Sep 21, 2004
    In this day and age of didtributed cloud servers, there's no way that what few retail units there are should be overwhelming the servers. Plus, TiVo could still stagger the updated over a short period.
  5. Nov 2, 2016 #105 of 131

    fllbrent New Member

    Jul 11, 2004
    Destin, Florida
    My guide is finally showing Game 7 so the data is out there at last! I don't remember ever having to force connections to get the correct guide data in the past for NBA or NHL game series.
  6. Nov 2, 2016 #106 of 131

    mattack Well-Known Member

    Apr 9, 2001
    Didn't read the full thread.. ok, I see that my issue is mentioned above.. it does seem strange that they can give the special messages in the (otherwise completely useless) bar at the top of the screen.. but can't actually force the tivos to call in/update the guide data properly..

    still, this is a slight improvement (at least telling Joe Schmoe user how to work around the problem)..

    but yeah, I too had the Fox prime time shows recorded.. I sure hope when they air next week, they WILL record without any special doing of mine.. (Nowadays I have enough tuners that I do _less_ manual checking of the To Do list than I used to.. but with problems like this and the To Be Announced problem, etc., I still check it.. just not always every day before I leave, like I used to..)
  7. Nov 3, 2016 #107 of 131

    SugarBowl Member

    Jan 4, 2007
    Cary, NC
    There were zero warnings on the TiVo Mini. Game 6 and Game 7 were never recorded.

    I selected the World Series Guide to record all of the games, and that's what should have happened.
  8. Nov 3, 2016 #108 of 131

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    Not only that but what they really need is just last-minute event updates, not the full download. We're only talking about a few K of changes at most each day that Tivos could get on an hourly basis (or auto-pushed if they don't want to poll), not the daily download. This is a trivial issue network and server-wise.

    Should be easy to do, but nothing we assume is easy is that way for Tivo. They take forever to do what seems like obvious user-requested stuff, with little to no explanation of why they can't (like screensaver option, configurable Mini live TV timeouts etc.).
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2016
  9. Nov 3, 2016 #109 of 131

    chiguy50 Well-Known Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    I managed to record both game 6 and 7 despite the last-minute updating of the TiVo/Rovi guide, which is inexcusable for a sports event of this magnitude and undoubtedly led to many users missing the recording or having to resort to awkward workarounds such as setting up a well-padded manual recording of what they knew to be incorrect program information.

    Then, just to add insult to injury, I saw that TiVo Central had a button at the bottom of the menu this morning congratulating the Cubs as World Series winners (and pointing to supposedly related programming material, such as a Bill Murray movie :rolleyes:). Fortunately for me, I did not go to TiVo Central until I had already finished watching the game this morning or I would have been royally pissed at the spoiler. (Like any self-respecting DVR enthusiast I nearly always watch programming with a time delay; in this case I had to take extraordinary measures to quarantine myself from any news sources for 12 hours until I had had a chance to watch the recorded proceedings.)

    No guide info until just before game time and then unnecessary spoilers immediately after the conclusion? Come on, TiVo, you're better than that!:mad:
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  10. OregonRider

    OregonRider New Member

    Feb 28, 2017
    Resurrecting an old thread.
    I came home last night expecting to watch game 7 because I’d setup a one pass. BUT NO!!!
    Come on Tivo. There are four major sports in America. Can’t SOMEBODY monitor the system to be sure ALL of the games are recorded?
  11. tommiet

    tommiet Active Member

    Oct 28, 2005
    Who was playing?
  12. schatham

    schatham Well-Known Member

    Mar 17, 2007
    The Montreal Expos
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  13. PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

    Jun 4, 2015
    Philly suburbs
    I am guessing your TiVo(s) did not call in for the daily guide update before the game came on. This is an apparent bug to me in their guide updates, the TiVo's scheduled connection time is not automatic when new guide updates are posted (around noon ET) and might not happen until after that day's primetime schedule completes. So every day when I get home I force a connection to get the updates before primetime starts. Yesterday if you connected, you got a big box warning on TiVo Central for a World Series Game 7. Some folks like @JoeKustra just let their TiVo connect on its own time and keep copious notes but not me, I want the guide to be up to date as possible! No exceptions.
  14. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    To be fair (to TiVo) there was a big red notice (it's in a different thread) that told you to make a service connection, including instructions. I saw it before the game started, but that may not be true for everyone since it may have been part of a VCM Connection which happens about every four hours on no kind of schedule.

    See: World Series Game 7 - Fox
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  15. PSU_Sudzi

    PSU_Sudzi Well-Known Member

    Jun 4, 2015
    Philly suburbs
    I did see that too but I don't understand why they can set our TiVo's to connect for guide updates sometime between when they make them available and before primetime on the east coast? This shouldn't be a complicated programming task for them.
  16. Rey

    Rey Member

    Oct 6, 2015
    Is it not possible for this to work correctly without one having to manually make a service connection? Or am I asking too much here?
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  17. JoeKustra

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    That would have made some people happy who made wish lists, but a service connection after 6pm on the east coast may not have been an easy task. Plus, in my opinion, the change should have been made after the last out of game 6. All I can say: meets expectations.
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  18. mbernste

    mbernste Active Member

    Apr 6, 2003
    Piscataway, NJ
    Two words: Load balancing
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  19. scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

    Oct 20, 2007
    MN, greater...
    New guide data is added everyday sometime after noon. If your tivo connects for guide data between then and the start of prime time tv, you're golden, but most of the time any given tivo is operating with yesterdays guide data update.
  20. powrcow

    powrcow Active Member

    Sep 27, 2010
    My TiVo checks in at 6:30am MST each day for yesterday's guide data.

    Fortunately the only thing really affected is "if necessary" sports games for championships and NCAA tournaments. Unfortunately for me, I like watching them.

    I just create manual recordings for those "if necessary" games. If they don't show up in the guide the day before, they won't show up when it's time to record them.

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