Why can't TiVo record the World Series?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by BubbaDude, Oct 27, 2006.

  1. Oct 28, 2006 #41 of 131
    rainwater

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    Seriously, it was a rare event caused by the guide data due to a rain out. No matter which DVR you used (TiVo, mythtv, etc) you would of had this problem had you not manually updated the recording right before the game.
     
  2. Oct 28, 2006 #42 of 131
    JimSpence

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    It's moot now, but why not just go through the guide and select each series game individually to record?
     
  3. Oct 28, 2006 #43 of 131
    lordbah

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    I am frankly disappointed to see people attacking the poster on this issue. The point is that the machine is supposed to serve us by making our lives more enjoyable; we aren't supposed to be here to serve it by babysitting it. I've been a software engineer for 20-odd years, and if I worked for TiVo I would long ago have worked out with Tribune a protocol for what to do (in terms of renaming shows) in case of a rainout which would allow the TiVo to do what its user told it to do. I side with the original poster on this one.

    (One poster in particular has been a real jerk. Maybe they know one another and are just messing around - or maybe he really is a jerk. Others have attacked the sport, which is irrelevant.)
     
  4. Oct 28, 2006 #44 of 131
    Inundated

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    The OP brought it on himself, frankly, with his over-the-top message. It's about as close to trolling as you can get without actually trolling...and throwing that kind of message into a forum that has a lot of, on their own, over-the-top fans of TiVo is the proverbial gasoline-on-fire scenario.

    That being said,

    A) He makes a valid point.
    B) Even with that, in 2006 with ANY DVR (TiVo, cable company, PC-based), you still need to watch for stuff like this.
    C) And even so, it does appear TiVo (and probably all DVRs) need to handle this sort of situation better.
     
  5. Oct 28, 2006 #45 of 131
    rainwater

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    A "World Series" "MLB Baseball" wishlist with a category of Sports/Sports Event set to auto-record all episodes including duplicates would of worked just fine and would of recorded every single game. TiVo works just fine in this situation if used correctly.
     
  6. Oct 28, 2006 #46 of 131
    lordbah

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    Would that also record ESPN Classic showings of past World Series?
     
  7. Oct 28, 2006 #47 of 131
    rainwater

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    It should but this is the case where you turn on the auto-record during the world series and cancel any episodes you don't want. Its a much better method IMHO. Also, if you added one of the teams in the World Series to the wish list, it would be more accurate.
     
  8. Oct 28, 2006 #48 of 131
    vman41

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    Probably, unless you also included "sports event" sub-category in your wish list.
     
  9. Oct 28, 2006 #49 of 131
    JYoung

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    if I'm not mistaken, setting the SP to Record All with Duplicates would have worked as well.
     
  10. Oct 28, 2006 #50 of 131
    BubbaDude

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    Yes, I believe it would have worked. That' s not the default, however.

    Somebody pointed out that my original post was trollish. Maybe so, but mainly it was an expression of my being pissed-off that the TiVo didn't do what I expected it to do.

    I've only become super-interested in baseball in the last few years, and that's because of the TiVo. Live baseball on TV is incredibly boring because there are so many commercials and seemingly endless strings of boring events, such as some batter fouling-off a dozen pitches before taking a walk or whatever. The ability to pick out the highlights of every game and to look at the close calls frame-by-frame enhances the whole TV viewing experience and all that. If I didn't have a TiVo, I wouldn't watch baseball on TV.

    That's why the inability of the machine to record a critical game is annoying. Any sports fan will tell you that game 4 of a 7 game series is the turning point. At the outset, one team typically has a 2-1 lead, and at the end it's either 3-1 and practically insurmountable, or 2-2 and a reset to the beginning.

    TiVo's flaw is to assume that its method of detecting duplicate recordings is sound and universal, when experience shows that it's clearly not.
     
  11. Oct 28, 2006 #51 of 131
    BubbaDude

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    I've found that doesn't work in this situation, because the titles change at the last minute when there's a rainout. If I tell TiVo to record Game 5 on Thursday, and if the guide says Game 4 is played on Thursday, it doesn't record it. I had this happen during the rainout in the NLCS between the Cards and the Mets.
     
  12. Oct 28, 2006 #52 of 131
    mick66

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    In other words - past experience has taught you absolutely nothing.
     
  13. Oct 28, 2006 #53 of 131
    BubbaDude

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    In other words, you're not only rude, you're illiterate. I said used a different method for the WS than I used for the NLCS.

    Now whay don't you go drink some more Kool-Aid and go play in traffic?
     
  14. Oct 29, 2006 #54 of 131
    mick66

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    The point that you've missed, because you're obviously not that bright, was that you've had tivo for five years and still can't figure out how to get it to record what you want. The majority of people would figure out why something didn't record and adapt that knowledge to future recordings and no longer have problems after 5 years. :rolleyes:

    You're funny.
     
  15. Oct 29, 2006 #55 of 131
    Netbudda

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    LOL......if we apply your logic...say GOD BYE to all Sports, Sitcoms, Movies.......QVC 24x7 HERE WE COME !!!!!!!!
     
  16. Oct 29, 2006 #56 of 131
    Netbudda

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    You sure have a GOD given skill of making things personal.
     
  17. Oct 29, 2006 #57 of 131
    Phialpha

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    Why is it that when Bubbadude calmed down and in a more polite way said he needed help, people still try to bash him? I for one jumped on the band wagon and tried to point things out that weren't real suggestions...who would really let the neighbor kid actually touch their Home Entertainment System?

    Even after all the negative posts he's one of the few people that have actually kept a cool head and tried to keep this thread on topic.

    All past posts being in the past, and the OP having a cooler head and that is listening to reason, what else can he do? Is there a manual way to tell the TIVO to update it's program guide, like when the game was rained out? Is there a way to program a recording Online for time and channel?
     
  18. Oct 30, 2006 #58 of 131
    GoHokies!

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    I thought that the OP was a great rant - too bad some of the others feel the need to go personal. Hopefully the OP can learn something and avoid the problem in the future (and some of us can learn from his mistake).

    I think the best solution was to set the record all, including duplicates option so that everything would get recorded.
     
  19. Oct 30, 2006 #59 of 131
    lordbah

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    Good ideas, but I would call them "workarounds". The "solution" would be for TiVo (and if necessary Tribune) to make changes such that the software does what the user expects, i.e. when told to record first run it actually does it, consistent with how it does it when told to do so for any other series.
     
  20. Oct 30, 2006 #60 of 131
    GoHokies!

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    They could title it something like "World Series: Game 4 makeup" to make it a different episode, but there's a chance that the dial up folks wouldn't update their guide data fast enough to catch it.

    The only way to make sure that you record every episode of something is to tell your Tivo explicitly that is what you want. (still wouldn't help if there was no game scheduled the night of the makeup and you didn't get the guide data in time, I guess - I don't think that there is anything that can help you there other than user attentiveness and a manual recording/forced connection)
     

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