Why buy a Stream?

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by brewman, May 8, 2014.

  1. dianebrat

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    No one on this thread or your previous threads has ever behaved towards you in the same ways that you have attacked others and continue to act in this thread, and that is why they are not put in the time-out corner.

    You have an obsession on the stream and its quality that you feel the need to relentlessly point out to anyone that does not agree with you, you don't grasp that others not only do not share your view, but have actual differing views of their own.
     
  2. aaronwt

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    Or don't even connect the SLingbox to a TV. I have a Slingbox 350 in a closet with a TiVo Mini. There is no need to have a TV hooked up to it. Although I did get the Lifetime TiVo Mini for free. If I didn't have that extra one I would have just put the Slingbox on the least used Mini.

    As far as downloading. The way I use OOH viewing, I never know what I am going to be viewing so I would not be able to download in advance. If I'm at another location with a TV, I just use the 1920x1080 HDMI output of my cellphone or tablet to send the A/V to the TV. Otherwise I would watch it directly on those devices.

    If Android support ever comes to the Stream(and that is a gigantic IF), then I will probably use the Stream for in home streaming to my tablet. But I will still use my Slingbox 350 for OOH streaming to my tablet and cell phone.
     
  3. Jun 1, 2014 #143 of 162
    jimmypowder

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    Did you see that pic I posted of ooh streaming !!! What a blurry piece of garbage . PhD - television streaming MBA BA image-3618633174.jpg


    Is this acceptable product ????????????
     
  4. Jun 1, 2014 #144 of 162
    Robin

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    What you don't seem to understand is that by ranting and raving incoherently with questionable punctuation you're driving people away from your POV.

    We've all seen your picture of OOH streaming. If David had posted it I would take it seriously because I know he has and appreciates both devices and uses both of them for different functions. However you are so indescribably biased against the Stream I don't give it any weight.

    I've never used a Stream but I have used a Slingbox and have had moments of very poor quality on par with the picture you posted. It would be easy for me to grab a screen capture showing poor performance even though the overall performance was very good. I'm not saying that's what you're doing, I'm just saying I can't trust that you're not so the picture does nothing to impress me either way.

    I am genuinely fascinated by why you're so obsessed with this. Are you upset because of the money you wasted on the Slingbox Sling? Why not resell it and move on with your life?
     
  5. Jun 1, 2014 #145 of 162
    jimmypowder

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    The video is blurry like that a lot.


    It is a garbage product ,IMO .


    You haven't even used a stream so you have nothing to compare it to .
    Go ahead and follow David's advice and pick a Stream up .
    What are you waiting for ?



    What Model Slingbox did you have ? Probably from years ago .


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  6. Jun 1, 2014 #146 of 162
    David Platt

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    Correct, she doesn't have a Stream. Which is why she has never made any made any comparisons between the two or made any comments about the quality of it.

    I would also greatly appreciate you pointing out where this 'advice' is that I gave telling people to buy a Stream. I certainly don't recall giving such advice. Instead, I related how both of the products have worked for me in my particular situation.
     
  7. Jun 1, 2014 #147 of 162
    jimmypowder

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    She doesn't have a stream and thus has no idea of its quality . Here's the pic I took yesterday of ooh streaming . Here's the quality your looking at : image-1620784972.jpg

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  8. Jun 1, 2014 #148 of 162
    David Platt

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    Your ability to ignore every single request for information or question asked of you is mind-boggling.
     
  9. Jun 1, 2014 #149 of 162
    lgnad

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    Gosh, I'm starting to hope there aren't any Stream updates in the upcoming software update. We'll likely have to put JP on suicide watch.
     
  10. Jun 1, 2014 #150 of 162
    jimmypowder

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    I already am just thinking about an update , I have Xanax at hand . Please inform me 24 hours in advance of a Tivo Stream update . When was the last one ? 1/2 year ago or so ? lol . If you think I have only called out Tivo Stream for making a bad product , IMO., think again , I have called out Apple. Microsoft , Logitech and yes even Slingbox in its early years . Rhapsody got it too along with many others . Should I get my meds ready ? I am listening to the Doors' The End!! Is that right Robin ? That apostrophe after Doors ? Lol
     
  11. Jun 1, 2014 #151 of 162
    moyekj

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    FYI, I updated 1st post in More detailed HLS statistics thread with OOH download information. I switched my iPad WiFi to use "guest mode" SSID which restricts clients to WAN only. So even though I'm using same WiFi network, this forces TiVo app into OOH mode and hence using the TiVo proxy server.
    Note that the download times in OOH mode are significantly slower compared to in home mode downloads. From my tests the TiVo proxy server limited downloads to ~1.85 Mbps even though my ISP upload speed is 5 Mbps. So I think it's further evidence that the TiVo proxy server is the culprit in throttling download speeds as we have long suspected, and hence lowering video quality for OOH streaming.

    It may be useful for those objectively interested in helping to collect similar statistics using a similar technique as I posted in that other thread to see if you get similar results. I don't know if the speed throttling by the TiVo proxy server varies significantly from one day to another or not, so more data points would be enlightening.
     
  12. Jun 1, 2014 #152 of 162
    jimmypowder

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    I agree with this even though I'm on suicide watch pending a Tivo update , hopefully with port forwarding . Hahaha . Jimmy Hate Stream PhD - doctorate in television streaming Hates - apple wifi , airplay beats headphones Rhapsody software Tivo stream Logitech Microsoft software BBB-scam ratings Mushrooms Voicemail Frontgate garbage products Insurance companies Women with outside belly buttons Pittsburgh Steelers Chipotle , Five guys burgers , an old girlfriend named Robin, Rocky Mountain oysters , Dirk Diggler( I'm jealous ) , Paris cab drivers , Corona , Rain .French bull dogs ,Gondola rides with groups that ate big mexican breakfast ,Comcast . AT&T, Verizon
     
  13. Jun 3, 2014 #153 of 162
    chelman

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    I bought it, Because:
    1. I got the stream bundled with a Tivo 4 from Woot.
    2. I'm a TiVo loyal customer for 10 years,
    3. I had high expectations about TiVo supporting Android, not anymore,
    4. I should have read the specs more carefully, before raisng my expectations,
    5. I have a high tolerance and patience for the slow pace of Tivo support for Android,
    6. maybe I like to be fooled by the companies I support,
     
  14. Jun 4, 2014 #154 of 162
    jimmypowder

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    The stream plain sucks . I'm gonna try it right now and bet it will not work .
     
  15. Jun 4, 2014 #155 of 162
    jimmypowder

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    Yep here's the latest though picture was better : Buffer city image-1298059081.jpg This happened after a few minutes not right off the bat where you would expect some buffering Jimmyhatestream - PhD - television streaming
     
  16. Jun 4, 2014 #156 of 162
    lgnad

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    that picture is making me laugh... the guy looks constipated or something, and it says "buffering" right in front of his face lol
     
  17. Jun 6, 2014 #157 of 162
    eboydog

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    As much as Jimmy hates his Stream, It's amazing how much he uses it. If it is so bad why does he still use it?

    What do they say about the defination of insanity is doing the same thing over and over getting the same result while expecting something different?

    The Stream works as advertised for me, I'm more than aware its limitations are a result of legal copyright measures and not the technical shortcomings of the device. Yes, the Slingbox has more capabilities handling content that the cable company imposes rescriction on but seriously Jimmy, why arent you seeking resolution to your Stream rather than just complaining? In all of your posts since you joined this forum i October of 2013, you have never sought solutions but rather just stated your complaints.

    I don't believe I have ever seen anyone so engaged in such a negitive relationship with something you find so horrible yet refuse to let go of. Do you have anything positive to contribute as you incessant complaining doesn't offer any credibility to your position?
     
  18. Jun 6, 2014 #158 of 162
    dianebrat

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    I'm in Salt Lake City this weekend and wanted to watch The Daily Show last night and the hotel doesn't have Comedy Central, so I kicked off a download, got ready for bed, curled up with my ipad and watched a perfectly acceptable stream fed TDS.

    IMO it worked exactly like I wanted, and even though I kicked it off in download mode, I started watching within a few minutes and was always ahead
     
  19. Austin Bike

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    I had no problem streaming to a rural village in Eyragues, France from my server back in the states. Of course there are better thing to do here than watch tv, so I abandoned it to focus on some local wine. Luckily jimmy didn't come with me, so complaining is at a minimum and beveridges are at a maximum.
     
  20. Gromit

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    I streamed pretty much all day yesterday. I'm at my parents' house for Father's Day weekend and my Dad and I smoked a pork butt from 9:30 am until 5:15 pm. I had my iPad and the TiVo app streaming Le Mans coverage almost the whole time.

    The stream stopped once and had to be restarted. Most of the time the picture was incredible at 5-7 green dots and looked perfect. Here and there I could tell it had dropped a bit but was always watchable.

    Comcast recently upgraded my internet speeds with my upload going from around 4 Mbps to 9-11 Mbps. I think that might be a big factor as it seemed to be better yesterday than the last time I tried it from my parents' house with the slower upload speed.
     

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