Who is planning on downgrading to TE3 because of pre-roll ads?

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Who is planning on downgrading to TE3 because of pre-roll ads?

  1. I would never downgrade to TE3. I love me some Hydra!

    46 vote(s)
    21.5%
  2. I'm giving it some serious thought.

    21 vote(s)
    9.8%
  3. I'm definitely downgrading to TE3 soon.

    6 vote(s)
    2.8%
  4. I've already downgraded to TE3 after the pre-roll ads were announced.

    9 vote(s)
    4.2%
  5. I downgraded to TE3 previously because I just didn't like Hydra.

    28 vote(s)
    13.1%
  6. I never upgraded to TE4 in the first place.

    104 vote(s)
    48.6%
  1. Sep 27, 2019 #81 of 116
    shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    You could buy a dual tuner premiere and switch back to the SD interface. I've got one running this way and it works great as a DVR with the old Tivo interface.
     
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  2. Sep 27, 2019 #82 of 116
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Guys, guys, thumb ratings? Really? Thinking for ourselves is old technology. Tivo bought Digitalsmiths (the recommendation algorithm) for $135 million, and by golly for that price they know what we want to watch more than we do! Tivo doesn't waste money and they are absolutely not shoehorning their investment into their product pipeline to justify it.

    I only watch an endless stream of science, sci-fi, and superhero movies and shows, but who am I to argue when I see the Kardashians and Real Housewives on my smartbar every other day? They know what's best.

    ;)
     
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  3. Sep 28, 2019 #83 of 116
    Sparky1234

    Sparky1234 Well-Known Member

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    I concur! That's a show stopper.... pun intended.
     
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  4. Sep 28, 2019 #84 of 116
    krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    ... and further skewed/filtered by the thread title, which would tend to draw more of those disgruntled with the TE4 interface and pre-roll ads.
     
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  5. Sep 28, 2019 #85 of 116
    mdavej

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    They're not. Tivo management has posted that Hydra numbers are quite good. This poll is 100 TE3 people (so far) out of millions. It's meaningless aside from the obvious fact that nobody likes forced ads, especially when we pay to use Tivo in the first place.
     
  6. Sep 28, 2019 #86 of 116
    Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    You mean, I'm not representative? (Thank heavens. ;) )
     
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  7. Oct 1, 2019 #87 of 116
    sd2528

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    Yeah but if you don't post here, how would you know you can downgrade? Do they advertise it? The only reason I knew I could and how to do it with as little pain possible is because I knew about this place.
     
  8. Oct 1, 2019 #88 of 116
    dcpmark

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    Question...how do I know if I’m running TE3 or TE4 on my Roamio Pro and my Minis? I’m old so I may or may not have upgraded in the past. :D

    Thanks!
     
  9. Oct 1, 2019 #89 of 116
    Lurker1

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    TE3 says "TiVo Central".
    TE4 says "TIVO HOME".
     
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  10. Oct 1, 2019 #90 of 116
    ppartekim

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    If TE4 has ads then I guess I have never seen them or they just as easy to skip over like every other commercial ads that plastered every where one looks and therefore forgettable and unseen just more noise in the background. Forced ads like hulu or TV just means it’s time to go grab that beer/food, use the bathroom, play with the dog, etc. ..
     
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  11. Oct 1, 2019 #91 of 116
    snerd

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    But that is what made TiVo great, it gave us the ability to skip over those ads and reclaim the 33% of TV viewing time that ads consumed so that we could use that time as we choose. Going back to the "just do other crap while ads are on" is a huge step backwards.
     
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  12. Oct 1, 2019 #92 of 116
    dcpmark

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    Sweet! I never ugraded any of my Tivos....score one for senility!
     
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  13. Oct 2, 2019 #93 of 116
    chiguy50

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    And my own motto is "You're only young once . . . but you can be immature forever!"
     
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  14. Oct 2, 2019 #94 of 116
    Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    When people remark I look younger than I am, I say "I work really hard at not acting my age".
     
  15. Oct 2, 2019 #95 of 116
    seaninde

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    What's the difference between TE3 and TE4 everyone talks about? Is it a platform update or something? Doesn't the software just always update? Just trying to learn.
     
  16. Oct 2, 2019 #96 of 116
    Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    You're buying an Edge as your first TiVo, right? So you'll have TE4 with no possibility of downgrading (or sidegrading, as folks like to say here) to TE3.

    TE4 is TiVo Experience 4, a.k.a. Hydra, a.k.a. Mira, the latest user interface. Many of us prefer keeping Tivo Experience 3 for features lost in TE4 like one of our favorite Guide formats, and to avoid the new pre-roll advertisements in TE4 (in case some cannot call TiVo to opt-out of those) among other things. The "sidegrade" and upgrade can be done manually on older units, and there are instructions on that in other threads here.

    But you needn't worry about any of that, and can just focus on how much better your new Edge will be compared to your regular old cable box. Looking forward to seeing your review.
     
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  17. Oct 2, 2019 #97 of 116
    krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    TE4 is an optional software/UI upgrade for Roamio and BOLT DVRs (and their connected Minis), though the BOLT OTA and new Edge series are TE4-only boxes. Premiere and earlier DVRs are not eligible for TE4.

    See this post for an attempt at summarizing the pros & cons.
     
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  18. Oct 8, 2019 #98 of 116
    dcpmark

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    Actually, thanks to the above post, now I remember why I didn’t upgrade.....no Live Guide with TE4. That is a 100% showstopper for me....it’s my absolute favorite feature of Tivo. Pretty much every other feature has been replicated by the competition, as far as I can tell.
     
  19. Oct 8, 2019 #99 of 116
    zubinh

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    Ironically, one week after the pre-roll ads were confirmed, I moved to TE4 from TE3. When I get the pre-roll ads, I'll just call to opt out. I really like TE4. Its got a fresh, modern UI and Auto Skip is great. I never cared for the live guide or the Thumbs feature in TE3.
     
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  20. Oct 8, 2019 #100 of 116
    aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I fired up my last Lifetime Premiere this morning. I really hate messing with TE3. But that is what my GF uses. So I will be swapping out her rarely used lifetime Roamio OTA, with my lifetime Premiere. Then I will put the lifetime Roamio OTA in place of the $6.95 a month ROamio BAsic I've had since the Roamio launch. And then I will cancel service on the ROamio Basic.
    And of course, switch the ROamio OTA over to TE4.
     

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