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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by tarheelblue32, Sep 23, 2019.
I'm just curious who is thinking about downgrading from TE4 to TE3 in light of the new pre-roll ads.
This development has given me pause with the idea of sidegrading from my current TE3 to TE4 (which I continually am evaluating), even as an experiment.
I do the same thing with one of my boxes. But it got prompty sidegraded back to TE3 once these pre-rolls popped up. Tivo_Ted's confirmation that TE3 will never be subject to the pre-rolls were reason enough for me to jump hard left...or back.
I went back to TE3 as soon as I saw the post about pre roll ads as I wanted to do it before TE3 downgrade may possibly be blocked.
I'm on TE3 and I hope my hard drive doesn't fail after they stop allowing the downgrade.
The introduction of the preroll ad feature got a short mention and discussion in Leo Laporte's "This Week in Tech" podcast that came out last evening. He didn't like the feature and railed at it, saying that, but for the fact that he paid a lot for his 3 TiVo boxes with Lifetime, he would get rid of them.
pre-roll ads on tivo were brought up/touched upon in a broad discussion about the streaming wars on CNBC with former Tivo CEO Tom Rogers.
Between loss of transfer of pc files to tivo in TE4, I never had plans to upgrade. This whole issue cements the decision. The day I'm forced to upgrade (or my bolt dies), I'm gone as a tivo customer. There is NO WAY IN HELL I would buy a new box with adware.
In the coming year with so many high-quality, non-advertising streaming possibilities, "advertising streaming, I think, is going to be at a real disadvantage."
Well I am a TE3 person. I have multiple Tivos, I do have one Bolt on TE4 as I wanted to test it, see if an external 3.5 could withstand software updates (so far it has). But if they are going to take away the ability to roll back coupled with the ads I think my "test" may be over.
I bought a Bolt (Summer Sale) with the intention of of a TE4 trial of sorts - I didn't feel the need to 'RUSH'. The events of the past few days pushed me to doing a TE3 "Roll-Back' last evening. Being a new box with no DVR storage present nothing was lost! Happy I'm NOT - I was looking forward to the TE4 Experience - who knows where TE4 will go? It seems to have issues - not knowing when/if a TE4 'lock' might be applied I just did it!
There's no box to check for:
I don't care.
I thought of downgrading and finally realized I would lose AutoSkip... save a few seconds there and lose a few minutes everywhere... doesn't sound logical.
I will not downgrade. I will wait until the ads start appearing, then call in to complain enough that they disable the ads on my Bolt.
I had actually bought a Mini VOX also and was looking forward to the experience of 'auto-skip' etc. Having absolutely no TE4 experience I thought it maybe a good move & let the SoftWare 'geniuses' see how smoothly they can get everything sorted. I suffered through an L3TV/T-Vision transition that the S'ware geniuses seem to have come from a 'curb-side' workday pool! It was a struggle that I certainly didn't want duplicated. I'd think the option to return to TE4 and maybe 'opt-out' of ads will maybe stick around or change to the point it's maybe not as much a nuisance as most expect!
I had 2 cases with TiVo support. They insisted 'ads feature' could be dismissed urging me to try! The 2d was since mine was still in wrapper how about a return. They said 'return' was no problem but ironically their responses actually came after I had done the install. Did they see the install being done? Who knows!!! Less than 20 minutes after activation 9:15 PM EDT or so I got the responses.
I'd like to have a TE4 test box as well--but with the prospect that TiVo could turn off the TE4 rollback feature at any time and without any warning, I'm fearful that the box could be stranded on TE4, and with pre-roll ads besides.
Couldn't you keep a backup drive with TE3 and reinstall it if needed...
Nope, TE3/TE4 isn't stored on the drive, it is stored in flash memory.
I have TE3 and use kmttg (best app ever) to perform autoskip.
If I remove my TE3 drive and insert a blank one, TiVo installs TE3 and than I upgrade to TE4. Now I remove the drive and reinstall the TE3 drive what happens?
I tried it a few times and it was rather clunky... never could take to it.