Which Set top boxes work well with Tivo please?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by MarkH, Feb 14, 2008.

  1. Pete77

    Pete77 New Member

    Aug 1, 2006
    Not Far...


    How about just turning off Automatic Updates and only installing the Windows patches manually when you are around to keep an eye on it and reboot the machine as required.:rolleyes:
  2. ghstone

    ghstone Novice hacker

    Apr 12, 2003
    Not at all, I use and build both Windows and Linux sysems (and a few others from time to time) for different applications - it's horses for courses as they say.

    A PVR is an appliance with specifc and limited functionality, not a multi purpose computer, and as such is should behave as one, I don't periodically reboot my Fridge (or my TIVO's) so why should I have to reboot MCE just to keep it running (!!?)

    In my experience IT appliances are most reliable if they are Linux based (most firewalls, Routers and SANS are) whereas computers used for personal productivity, tend to be better left to Windows as the average user should not need to know how to install and configure a multitude of different apps* just get on with their day job.

    Years ago I was firmly in the 'Unix is Snake Oil' camp, then they put a GUI on VMS, called it NT, put the compute power on the Desktop and the world changed forever. Now everyone expects a GUI rather than a command line, every application has to seamlessly integrate with every other, and the computing is done for the most part at the desk. Still, the world turns again, and with the advent of GRID and Cloud computing, applications and processing power are moving away from the desktop and back to the Data Centres.

    Who knows, perhaps real on-demand content will finally become a reality - no need to record a program, and no need for schedules, no need to maintain a broadcast infrastructure either for Terrestrial or Satellite. As programmes are produced they are just loaded into 'the system' and made available for streaming direct to the screen in your home, some by subscription others free to view.

    Of course the screen in your home would be some sort of puprose built appliance, which if it ran an O/S at all, would most likely be Linux ;)


    (*OpenOffice and Firefox excepted of course!)
  3. TheBear

    TheBear Member

    Feb 21, 2001

    That was six quid well spent, wasn't it...??!
  4. nickharman

    nickharman New Member

    Nov 19, 2005
    well who was to know about the upgrade killing it later? In fact were it not for a power outage in the street last week forcing a rescan, it would still be working.

    I got a good six months or so flawless use out of it for £6 so yes, I'm still smiling.

    Just got a goodmans from argos, seems fine for £25 if rather large and ugly to look at

  5. jed

    jed New Member

    Oct 16, 2001


    I'd love to know how you get on with it, particularly in relation to my points in a previous post.
  6. Uwish

    Uwish New Member

    May 21, 2005
  7. Tim L

    Tim L New Member

    Jan 5, 2002
    London, UK
    I see your point, but take exception to the notion that windows needs rebooting a lot. I've got a plain XP SP2 box which I use as a file and media server, and for usenet/BT duties, and until I had a power cut today it had been on for around 130 days. The only time it's down is to swap out hardware or due to problems beyond my control.

    The patch issue is trickier if you have to keep up with every patch, but if the windows machine is being used purely as a PVR you just need to lock down access to wherever it gets its guide data from.
  8. jdwood37

    jdwood37 New Member

    Dec 6, 2002
    Bedford, UK
    I'm thinking of buying a Sony LCD TV with built in Freeview-does anyone know if they are ok with Sony IR sent by Tivo?
  9. Ashley

    Ashley Aibo nut

    Apr 20, 2002
    Windsor UK
    You cannot record from the TV's built in Freeview tuner.
  10. jed

    jed New Member

    Oct 16, 2001
    Please can one of you guys with the Tvonics MFR-200 comment regarding my requested features, namely

    1. are readily available (preferably at a local store so I can easily return the faulty ones - Argos seems to have so no problem here))
    2. automatically turns on after a power failure
    3. you can disable scanning for new channels (or it does it silently)
    4. obviously Tivo has the codes to control
    5. You can change from TV to radio and back by channel number only
    6. generally just works well with Tivo and is decent quality

    (Since my last posting I've bought and returned 3 Sagem ITD64 and bought a ITD72 today which also needs to be returned. Not surprising really - french rubbish).

    Thanks guys...

    Actually, how does that work, as far as I can see the Tvonics doesn't have a scart lead - how does that work then - slightly confused...
  11. Fred Smith

    Fred Smith Still learning

    Oct 5, 2002
    RF output to TiVo RF input, or there is an optional (around £7 I believe) 2.5mm jack plug to Scart plug lead, but composite video only and stereo sound.
  12. Sep 2, 2008 #113 of 117

    jed New Member

    Oct 16, 2001
    Actually having read the thread on http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=400552 I picked up the Wharfedale from Argos now £19.99 which once it's had an OTA upgrade apparently will fulfill all 6 of my criteria.

    A bit annoying in the mean time but it's got to be better than those Sagem boxes - I'm sure something is fundamentally wrong there for me to have 5 which don't work properly (4 ITD64 and a ITD72) - I reckon the recent Freeview upgrades have broken them somehow.

    Cheers for your help anyway guys.
  13. Sep 4, 2008 #114 of 117

    warrenrb Quiet Member

    Jul 20, 2002
    Trying to find a new box for my parents' tivo. Why is the Wharfedale "a bit annoying in the meantime"? What does the upgrade fix/change?
  14. Sep 4, 2008 #115 of 117

    jed New Member

    Oct 16, 2001
    What I was getting at is that with the supplied v0.3 s/w, after a power hit the box only goes into standby when the power comes back (not very clever if you're on holiday or still catching up with old programs, you may not notice for ages and miss loads of recordings).

    To get the upgrade which apparently fixes this I'll have to keep checking the DTG website every week for when the next upgrade is broadcast so I can turn on the checking for the OTA upgrade on the box. Once you turn on the checking for the OTA upgrade the box then needs to be in standby (not ideal for Tivo) as I understand it as it then powers up a 3am to download the upgrade.

    If you don't mind missing recordings after a power hit then this isn't a problem.

    As I understand things in that other thread, there is also a question mark as to whether the OTA upgrade actually upgrades the 832B or only the 832BN (seems pot luck as to which you get).

    However, have a look at my new thread http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=6646090#post6646090 where I think I may have a work around for this. If this works the box now fulfills all 6 of my criteria. I've not had it long enough to see if I have any of the sound drop outs which seem to plague some of these boxes.
  15. Sep 6, 2008 #116 of 117

    LaupSavea New Member

    Dec 10, 2004
    Does anyone know of an up to date list of Freeview boxes that work with TIVOs - I am really struggling to find one that works - mine is very old and I have bought 3 that dont work so far for one reason or another.
  16. Sep 6, 2008 #117 of 117

    jed New Member

    Oct 16, 2001
    Join the club mate.

    The Sagems work really well if you can find one which acutally works.
    I went through 3 Sagem ITD64 which all had problems (one didn't even power up properly) and an ITD72 which turned off and on erratically.

    I'm now on my 2nd Wharfedale which seems to work ok if you jam the power on button on (as per my other thread) - the first one had frequent sound drops, the second one I picked up earlier today and have already noticed one drop - although I'll give it a longer try to see if that was a one off (I doubt it).

    I was trying to find out about the Philips which is readily available, but no replies to my thread about that unfortunately.

    Fortunately I still have an old Sky dish so, much as I dislike Sky, if this one keeps loosing sound, I'm going to get a Sky STB and a £20 Skysat FTA card.

    Good luck in the hunt - let us know if you find anything.

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